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Title: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 12, 2012, 08:36:08 AM Well, the other shoe has dropped.
Quote Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley never demonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well-being of Sandusky’s victims until after Sandusky’s arrest. A copy of the full report can be accessed from the link. http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/12/12699159-penn-state-report-says-president-paterno-concealed-facts?lite Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: 2Stater on July 12, 2012, 08:42:03 AM Well, the other shoe has dropped. Quote Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley never demonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well-being of Sandusky’s victims until after Sandusky’s arrest. A copy of the full report can be accessed from the link. http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/12/12699159-penn-state-report-says-president-paterno-concealed-facts?lite (http://images.publicradio.org/content/2009/01/23/20090123_three_judge_panel_33.jpg) + >:D Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 12, 2012, 08:47:05 AM The report is 267 pages, so it will take some time to digest. I am reading at page 55 about the retirement of Sandusky and his benefit package and why he was retiring. Fascinating.
:o Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: pmull on July 12, 2012, 09:10:24 AM NCAA President Mark Emmert has said he would wait for this report and then decide if the NCAA would pursue "lack of institutional control". He said the definition of lack of institutional control is when an athlectic program gets so big it has more authority than the school administration.
From what I can see Penn St should get hammered. Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 12, 2012, 09:15:03 AM NCAA President Mark Emmert has said he would wait for this report and then decide if the NCAA would pursue "lack of institutional". He said the definition of lack of institutional is when an athlectic program gets so big it has more authority than the school administration. From what I can see Penn St should get hammered. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorists, but since this is a Ben Ten team, they get off with a wrist slap. God help us if this was an SEC team. They would have gotten the death penalty. Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: ALTideUp on July 12, 2012, 10:20:20 AM I listened to the entire presser in the car. Even from a guy who was (a) hired by the school itself, and (b) going out of his way to stay close to the facts, this looks and sounds awful. In the hands of media outlets who are not obliged to show that kind of restraint, the report is a silver bullet in the heart of the Nitany Lion. I'm not being dramatic here. This thing will change PSU forever. This is the social/psychological/cultural version of Nagasaki. The cultural half-life of the effects of this thing will take decades to pass. Prior to coming to Bama, PSU was the only college FB team I ever rooted for, so I take no delight in any of this.
In some ways, this is like the Jesus story: PSU will die for our sins. There are thousands of people in schools, businesses, etc. who are siting on the exact same situation that PSU found itself in. Hundreds of janitors and clerks who know things, administrators who are trying to be discrete. If this mess means they speak up, then PSU's acutely painful loss will be the gain of everybody who has been, or could be, harmed in this way or other ways. PS. That sound like a knock on Jesus. Didn't mean that. Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 12, 2012, 10:49:39 AM I listened to the entire presser in the car. Even from a guy who was (a) hired by the school itself, and (b) going out of his way to stay close to the facts, this looks and sounds awful. In the hands of media outlets who are not obliged to show that kind of restraint, the report is a silver bullet in the heart of the Nitany Lion. I'm not being dramatic here. This thing will change PSU forever. This is the social/psychological/cultural version of Nagasaki. The cultural half-life of the effects of this thing will take decades to pass. Prior to coming to Bama, PSU was the only college FB team I ever rooted for, so I take no delight in any of this. In some ways, this is like the Jesus story: PSU will die for our sins. There are thousands of people in schools, businesses, etc. who are siting on the exact same situation that PSU found itself in. Hundreds of janitors and clerks who know things, administrators who are trying to be discrete. If this mess means they speak up, then PSU's acutely painful loss will be the gain of everybody who has been, or could be, harmed in this way or other ways. PS. That sound like a knock on Jesus. Didn't mean that. The fans share a large part of the blame, too. This is the result of blind, unquestioning, and total devotion and belief in a coach for one reason, he won a lot of football games. This is a loud message to all fan bases, especially Alabama. We have to keep our eyes and our brains open to the obvious. God protect us from some evil thing like this happening at our university. :pray: Quote Several Penn State staff members and football coaches "regularly observed" Jerry Sandusky showering with young boys in university locker rooms prior to 1998, but never told their superiors, according to the Freeh report issued this morning. Quote According to the report, an adult male who was not part of the Attorney General's prosecution of Sandusky alleged he was molested by the Penn State assistant coach "over 100 times" in the mid-1990s, including in Penn State showers "where Sandusky fondled him and performed oral sex on him." The first record of Penn State administrators being aware of Sandusky's actions came in May 1998 when the mother of a Second Mile participant reported Sandusky had bear-hugged her son in a Penn State shower. Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: pmull on July 12, 2012, 11:12:52 AM Quote The report says the main cause of the university's failure was a desire to avoid bad publicity. Also contributing: •A striking lack of empathy for child abuse victims. •Lack of oversight by the board of trustees. •"A president who discouraged discussion and dissent." •Ignorance of child abuse issues and laws. •A football program that had opted out of university programs and training on reporting requirements. •"A culture of reverence for the football program that is ingrained at all levels of the campus community." http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/12/12699159-report-finds-penn-state-president-paterno-concealed-facts-about-sandusky-sex-abuse?lite Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: XBAMA on July 12, 2012, 12:19:52 PM whoop there it is ....
Quote "Four of the most powerful people at The Pennsylvania State University -- President Graham B. Spanier, Senior Vice President-Finance and Business Gary C. Schultz, Athletic Director Timothy M. Curley and Head Football Coach Joseph V. Paterno -- failed to protect against a child predator harming children for over a decade. These men concealed Sandusky's activities from the Board of Trustees, the University community and authorities. They exhibited a striking lack of empathy for Sandusky's victims by failing to inquire as to their safety and well-being, especially by not attempting to determine the identity of the child who Sandusky assaulted in the Lasch Building in 2001. Further, they exposed this child to additional harm by alerting Sandusky, who was the only one who knew the child's identity, of what McQueary saw in the shower on the night of February 9, 2001. "These individuals, unchecked by the Board of Trustees that did not perform its oversight duties, empowered Sandusky to attract potential victims to the campus and football events by allowing him to have continued, unrestricted and unsupervised access to the University's facilities and affiliation with the University's prominent football program. Indeed, that continued access provided Sandusky with the very currency that enabled him to attract his victims. Some coaches, administrators and football program staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him." Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: cbbama99 on July 12, 2012, 12:52:27 PM I wish I could say that I was completely surprised by all of this, but as more and more of this story leaked out over the past few months, it became more likely to me that this whole situation involved more than just Sandusky and a couple other people. Marshal is right: this should serve as a wake up call to every school and fan base in the NCAA to not turn a blind eye to any type of wrong doing.
Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: ALTideUp on July 12, 2012, 01:31:56 PM The fans share a large part of the blame, too . This is the result of blind, unquestioning, and total devotion and belief in a coach for one reason, he won a lot of football games. This is a loud message to all fan bases, especially Alabama. We have to keep our eyes and our brains open to the obvious. God protect us from some evil thing like this happening at our university.:pray: MD - This is a hugely important point. This is where we, the average Joes, come into the picture. I am aware of people who kept their kids out of certain activities like little league or scouts because it meant they would have to give up their Saturday afternoon football games. That's pathetic. The way some of the PSU fans are reacting is pathetic, too, but if this happened at Bama many fans would be reacting the same way. We are a classy and a better program and state if we love our Crimson Tide but keep football in it's proper context, as a game, a diversion, not what really matters, but rather what we do to take a break from the things in life that really matter. Title: Re: Penn State Report Says President & Paterno Concealed Child Abuse Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 12, 2012, 02:42:16 PM The fans share a large part of the blame, too . This is the result of blind, unquestioning, and total devotion and belief in a coach for one reason, he won a lot of football games. This is a loud message to all fan bases, especially Alabama. We have to keep our eyes and our brains open to the obvious. God protect us from some evil thing like this happening at our university.:pray: MD - This is a hugely important point. This is where we, the average Joes, come into the picture. I am aware of people who kept their kids out of certain activities like little league or scouts because it meant they would have to give up their Saturday afternoon football games. That's pathetic. The way some of the PSU fans are reacting is pathetic, too, but if this happened at Bama many fans would be reacting the same way. We are a classy and a better program and state if we love our Crimson Tide but keep football in it's proper context, as a game, a diversion, not what really matters, but rather what we do to take a break from the things in life that really matter. Bingo! You nailed it perfectly. Now, if we can get a huge number of fans to understand that, this type of stuff can be prevented. :dog: |