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Title: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: rueben on September 13, 2012, 04:48:35 AM
 Is any one on here a "Sovereign Citizen" or know much about them? 


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: pmull on September 13, 2012, 11:42:49 AM
I hope none of our CRS friends are involved since they are consided domestic terroists and anti-government extremists by the FBI.

Why, you think about joining?


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: ricky023 on September 13, 2012, 11:54:21 AM
Lordy, I am not sure I know anything about it but that is what we pay our most immoral President for is to establish laws and enforce them to see these folks stay out. I guess I am wrong though when he, himself is one of them. My only line is to support Israel because they are Gods' chosen people. RTR!


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 13, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: ricky023 on September 13, 2012, 11:59:15 AM
Hey HL I didn't understand that reply. I look for you to teach me what you meant. This sovereign thing has me confused. RTR!


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 13, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
Hey HL I didn't understand that reply. I look for you to teach me what you meant. This sovereign thing has me confused. RTR!

I was just yacking mostly, Ricky, in reference to the statement that the group was considered a terrorist by the FBI.  Many people around the world would consider the FBI or (more likely) the CIA to be terrorist to them.  I don't know anything about the Sovereign Citizens group that the OP asked about.

But there is truth in what I said in many circumstances.  "Good" and "Right" when it comes to war is often defined by which side you're on and very little else.  Rarely is either side completely righteous.


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: ricky023 on September 13, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
Hey HL I didn't understand that reply. I look for you to teach me what you meant. This sovereign thing has me confused. RTR!


But there is truth in what I said in many circumstances.  "Good" and "Right" when it comes to war is often defined by which side you're on and very little else.  Rarely is either side completely righteous.


OK HL I got you now. This is sure the truth. I can see ever war we was ever in we thought America was total truth and we should win. I suppose what the other side has been taught could make them feel the same way right or wrong. Good job sir. I thank ya, cause I now have your meaning. Well done. RTR!


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: BAMAWV on September 13, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
Is any one on here a "Sovereign Citizen" or know much about them? 
Waiting to see how the election goes. lol


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: pmull on September 13, 2012, 12:36:30 PM
This group is anti-government. They do not believe in taxes. They don't obey all laws. If they don't like the law they ignore it as if it does not apply to them. Some people call them freedom fighters. Personnally I have a problem with them. I don't dislike illegal immigrates I just don't like it that they do not obey all laws or pay taxes. It looks similar to me.


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: pmull on September 13, 2012, 12:39:03 PM
Is any one on here a "Sovereign Citizen" or know much about them? 
Waiting to see how the election goes. lol

You make a good point.


Title: Re: Sovereign Citizens
Post by: rueben on September 13, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
I hope none of our CRS friends are involved since they are consided domestic terroists and anti-government extremists by the FBI.

Why, you think about joining?
LOL, no I have had some mild run in's with a few with my new job description. From what I can see, SOME of their ideals are great, it's just the way they carry them out that is (at times very) wrong. So far, the part I have had to deal with, they have been okay with. Maybe a little disgruntled, but no more than the average business owner. SO, as far as I can tell, they feel that their citizenship may be sovereign, how ever they have to play by the rules if they are going to own and operate a buisness. This may also be renforced by the fact that the person who owned the buisness prior, is now in the Penn for Income Tax Evasion. I must admit it was a little rush to show up at their place of buisness in a parade of 7 police cars, a Sheriff Deputy SUV, and my truck, LOL. MAybe that had something to do with why they were so nice. LOL.