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Title: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 26, 2012, 07:47:14 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/romney-pro-business-groups-blame-obama-polices-on-recent-mine-closings/

I keep in touch with a mine superintendent in Southern West Virginia. He said he has had to hire a couple guys just to escort the number of federal inspectors in and out. They are around every day costing money which is transferred to electricity bills.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: pmull on September 26, 2012, 08:38:57 PM
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Kevin Crutchfield, the company’s chief executive officer, said the lay-offs and the closings of the non-union mines are the result a difficult market in which power plants are switching to abundant, less-expensive natural gas and "a regulatory environment that's aggressively aimed at constraining the use of coal."

The layoffs hurt the coal industry but that is just the beginning. In the South most power plants are coal fired. Coal is an important resource to more than the coal miners. Look for power bills to go up.

BHO does not have a clue how to lead this country out of the recession we are in. The economy sucks and the national debt keeps rising. What else to these swing states need to see?


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: pmull on September 26, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
WV, this article specifically states non-union coal miners being laid off. IS BHO targeting the non-union mines or is this also affecting union miners?


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 26, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
WV, this article specifically states non-union coal miners being laid off. IS BHO targeting the non-union mines or is this also affecting union miners?
Both. WV is a strong union state because of coal mining. But Obama was beaten handily here in 2008. You can maybe guess why.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 26, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
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Kevin Crutchfield, the company’s chief executive officer, said the lay-offs and the closings of the non-union mines are the result a difficult market in which power plants are switching to abundant, less-expensive natural gas and "a regulatory environment that's aggressively aimed at constraining the use of coal."

The layoffs hurt the coal industry but that is just the beginning. In the South most power plants are coal fired. Coal is an important resource to more than the coal miners. Look for power bills to go up.

BHO does not have a clue how to lead this country out of the recession we are in. The economy sucks and the national debt keeps rising. What else to these swing states need to see?
Without explaining the intracies of a coal mine I'll use an example even the daily thread cabal can understand. Say an inspector visits your home once or twice a day. The riser on the 4th step up has a squeak,-- $50 fine. You call a carpenter and he says he'll be there nexxt weeks--$50x7. The lightbulb is burned out in a guest room you rarely go into--$50. The screen in your sink faucet hasn't been changed every 6 mos. (ridiculous)-- $300. Your screen in the back door has a pencil size hole-- $50. You are forced to hire a full time maintenance man to work around your house because it is cheaper than paying fines, even though none of these things are a safety issue nor has anyone complained.

The Obama administration threatened to bankrupt the coal industry before the 2008 election. He is making good on at least one of his campaign promises. Expect your power bill to soon reflect that, because the costs will be passed on and you are the end user.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 26, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
WV layoffs:

http://wvgazette.com/News/201206210237

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/wva-va-coal-communities-still-weighing-impact-of-alpha-mine-shutdowns-worker-layoffs/2012/09/19/a426d48a-0290-11e2-9132-f2750cd65f97_story.html


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: Merk on September 27, 2012, 10:35:11 PM
My wife's parents who live in Milton, WV. are saying the same things you are. Obama is destroying the coal industry with regulation with no end in sight.

I used to work in southern WV before I was transferred to Texas. There is very little there in terms of economic opportunity except coal mining. Those small towns depend on mining and without it, I fear there is little hope for some of them. I met some fine folks while working there. It is such a shame this is happening to them.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 28, 2012, 07:37:40 AM
My wife's parents who live in Milton, WV. are saying the same things you are. Obama is destroying the coal industry with regulation with no end in sight.

I used to work in southern WV before I was transferred to Texas. There is very little there in terms of economic opportunity except coal mining. Those small towns depend on mining and without it, I fear there is little hope for some of them. I met some fine folks while working there. It is such a shame this is happening to them.
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Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: Merk on September 28, 2012, 02:24:52 PM
One other interesting aspect is that Obama has done something that hasn't been done in the history of the coal mining industry. He has brought coal management, workers unions, and the workers themselves together in one common cause: their very economic survival.

All these groups will vote Republican in an attempt to save their companies and jobs.

Wonder what their forefathers would have thought about this?? 


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 28, 2012, 02:37:03 PM
One other interesting aspect is that Obama has done something that hasn't been done in the history of the coal mining industry. He has brought coal management, workers unions, and the workers themselves together in one common cause: their very economic survival.

All these groups will vote Republican in an attempt to save their companies and jobs.

Wonder what their forefathers would have thought about this?? 
The Charleston Gazette is the state's flagship paper. They are to blame for more problems in WV than any politician. They intentionally kept the Obama promise to bankrupt the coal industry quiet until after the '08 election. Even then, this liberal newspaper has refused to acknowledge it. McCain still won hands down. But yeah, never before has mgt. and the UMW ever been on the same side of ANYTHING until now.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: pmull on September 28, 2012, 02:50:34 PM
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Kevin Crutchfield, the company’s chief executive officer, said the lay-offs and the closings of the non-union mines are the result a difficult market in which power plants are switching to abundant, less-expensive natural gas and "a regulatory environment that's aggressively aimed at constraining the use of coal."

The layoffs hurt the coal industry but that is just the beginning. In the South most power plants are coal fired. Coal is an important resource to more than the coal miners. Look for power bills to go up.

BHO does not have a clue how to lead this country out of the recession we are in. The economy sucks and the national debt keeps rising. What else to these swing states need to see?
Without explaining the intracies of a coal mine I'll use an example even the daily thread cabal can understand. Say an inspector visits your home once or twice a day. The riser on the 4th step up has a squeak,-- $50 fine. You call a carpenter and he says he'll be there nexxt weeks--$50x7. The lightbulb is burned out in a guest room you rarely go into--$50. The screen in your sink faucet hasn't been changed every 6 mos. (ridiculous)-- $300. Your screen in the back door has a pencil size hole-- $50. You are forced to hire a full time maintenance man to work around your house because it is cheaper than paying fines, even though none of these things are a safety issue nor has anyone complained.

The Obama administration threatened to bankrupt the coal industry before the 2008 election. He is making good on at least one of his campaign promises. Expect your power bill to soon reflect that, because the costs will be passed on and you are the end user.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

BHO is not doing one thing to help the average working man. In fact, he is costing a lot of them their jobs. He has to go.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: Merk on September 28, 2012, 03:02:41 PM
One other interesting aspect is that Obama has done something that hasn't been done in the history of the coal mining industry. He has brought coal management, workers unions, and the workers themselves together in one common cause: their very economic survival.

All these groups will vote Republican in an attempt to save their companies and jobs.

Wonder what their forefathers would have thought about this?? 
The Charleston Gazette is the state's flagship paper. They are to blame for more problems in WV than any politician. They intentionally kept the Obama promise to bankrupt the coal industry quiet until after the '08 election. Even then, this liberal newspaper has refused to acknowledge it. McCain still won hands down. But yeah, never before has mgt. and the UMW ever been on the same side of ANYTHING until now.


Very true. We got the Gazette when we lived in Ona. It was so bad then that we cancelled it and just subscribed the the Herald Dispatch which was not quite as bad. That was years ago so not sure how the Dispatch is now.


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: pmull on September 28, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Why is it that 99% of TV networks and newspapers liberal?


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 28, 2012, 03:39:24 PM
One other interesting aspect is that Obama has done something that hasn't been done in the history of the coal mining industry. He has brought coal management, workers unions, and the workers themselves together in one common cause: their very economic survival.

All these groups will vote Republican in an attempt to save their companies and jobs.

Wonder what their forefathers would have thought about this?? 
The Charleston Gazette is the state's flagship paper. They are to blame for more problems in WV than any politician. They intentionally kept the Obama promise to bankrupt the coal industry quiet until after the '08 election. Even then, this liberal newspaper has refused to acknowledge it. McCain still won hands down. But yeah, never before has mgt. and the UMW ever been on the same side of ANYTHING until now.


Very true. We got the Gazette when we lived in Ona. It was so bad then that we cancelled it and just subscribed the the Herald Dispatch which was not quite as bad. That was years ago so not sure how the Dispatch is now.
I've boycotted the Gazette for years-- Dad keeps me up dated on what they've done now! Is Ona  where the racetrack was between Chas. and Huntington?


Title: Re: Coal Mining Layoffs Because of Obama
Post by: Merk on September 28, 2012, 05:09:24 PM
One other interesting aspect is that Obama has done something that hasn't been done in the history of the coal mining industry. He has brought coal management, workers unions, and the workers themselves together in one common cause: their very economic survival.

All these groups will vote Republican in an attempt to save their companies and jobs.

Wonder what their forefathers would have thought about this?? 
The Charleston Gazette is the state's flagship paper. They are to blame for more problems in WV than any politician. They intentionally kept the Obama promise to bankrupt the coal industry quiet until after the '08 election. Even then, this liberal newspaper has refused to acknowledge it. McCain still won hands down. But yeah, never before has mgt. and the UMW ever been on the same side of ANYTHING until now.


Very true. We got the Gazette when we lived in Ona. It was so bad then that we cancelled it and just subscribed the the Herald Dispatch which was not quite as bad. That was years ago so not sure how the Dispatch is now.
I've boycotted the Gazette for years-- Dad keeps me up dated on what they've done now! Is Ona  where the racetrack was between Chas. and Huntington?


Yeah. Ona Speedway. Been there a number of times.