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Title: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Jamos on October 14, 2012, 06:46:54 AM
Whew, I didn't know my heart rate could get so high until A J was laying on the ground and making no attempt to get up. My first thought was that Phillip Sims is no longer on the team now it will be show and tell of how Bama must handle the situation without A J at quarterback.

Blake Sims is a good athlete and does a good job when he does get to play, but he is no McCarron and nor is Ely. I think either would do well until Bama has to face the better teams in the conference and as well as any of the better teams nationally. Bama has a good running attack but still has to have an effecient passing attack to make the running game possible.

I definitly think the backup QBs will get more snaps starting this week after the scare yesterday, AJ is good but not invincible. We all have seen how the running game has suffered with Lacy having the injury bug slow him down, Yeldon is good but he's not a Lacy just yet and the same goes for the offensive line losing a couple of their starters. This team needs everyone healthy for them to reach their lofty goal of #15.

But the key denominator of this team is McCarron, there is no quality replacement for him and Bama's chances of going all the way without him minimizes to the max. Bama has been riddled by the injury bug all year, so let's hope yesterday will satisfy that nagging problem and the team can be lucky enough to finish the season without anymore major injuries or near misses, my heart can't take it. Roll Tide!!


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Chechem on October 14, 2012, 06:51:36 AM
Thanks, Jamos.  Did you see this story describing AJ's appearance as he left the stadium?

http://blogs.tennesseevalleynow.com/bamablog/2012/10/14/aj-mccarron-shows-he-has-toughness-too/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=aj-mccarron-shows-he-has-toughness-too


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: 2Stater on October 14, 2012, 07:12:45 AM
A point well made, J. I was sick at my stomach when he was on the ground and very relieved when he returned. I sure hope he's healthy for UT.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: pmull on October 14, 2012, 07:31:20 AM
QB depth was a concern going into the season and it is still a concern. AJ showed guts to come back and play after his injury. We have to develop a second team QB that can play winning football in big games. Simms has looked good in mop up duty but he has not had to throw the ball. You would have to think Simms and Ely will get many reps this week. We recruited them for a reason so I hope they are up to the task if needed.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Jamos on October 14, 2012, 08:00:59 AM
Thanks, Jamos.  Did you see this story describing AJ's appearance as he left the stadium?

http://blogs.tennesseevalleynow.com/bamablog/2012/10/14/aj-mccarron-shows-he-has-toughness-too/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=aj-mccarron-shows-he-has-toughness-too


Thanks for the link Chech, a very good read. Let's hope that there's no swelling in the knee.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: XBAMA on October 14, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
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Well, actually, gingerly doesn’t really describe it all that well. Holding tightly onto the rail, like a child who has put on roller skates for the first time, he would step quickly with his good leg and then almost slide his right foot along the ground.


that doesn't sound good , not at all .

btw ... who is Mark Edwards ? any background ?


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: bama87 on October 14, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
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Well, actually, gingerly doesn’t really describe it all that well. Holding tightly onto the rail, like a child who has put on roller skates for the first time, he would step quickly with his good leg and then almost slide his right foot along the ground.


that doesn't sound good , not at all .

btw ... who is Mark Edwards ? any background ?
He took over casagrande's blog. I think AJ will be fine.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: XBAMA on October 14, 2012, 10:36:16 AM
He took over casagrande's blog. I think AJ will be fine.

any idea where Edawrds was before Casagrande went to South Florida ?
he seems to be doing a good job but I haven't really read it MC left


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Catch Prothro on October 14, 2012, 10:53:22 AM
Doctors use the word "sprain" anytime there isn't a more definitive diagnosis.  You'll frequently see "sprain" for back injuries that later turn out to be a herniated disc.  And for knee injuries where physical manipulation doesn't reveal anything definite.  It could be a small tear in the MCL, could be something stretched but didn't break or tear.  Only an MRI can show what's really going on.  (It's not just a "bruise," despite what was said.)  The fact that AJ went back out there is a good sign.  The way he was walking after the game, though, that has to hurt.  I know it hurts, and hurts for some time before it goes away.  He'll be hurting for at least a couple of weeks, and playing football won's make it better.  But it looks like AJ is going to be playing through the pain.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: pmull on October 14, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
He took over casagrande's blog. I think AJ will be fine.

any idea where Edawrds was before Casagrande went to South Florida ?
he seems to be doing a good job but I haven't really read it MC left

He ia a writer for The Decatur Daily. He is an excellant sports reporter. He is also the Sports Editor for the Decatur paper. Newspapers are stuggling so everyone has to wear more hats I guess. I agree he is doing a good job with the blog.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: XBAMA on October 14, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
thanks pmull , he seems to be on top of things and from what
I've read so far , I liked


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
He showed absolutely no signs of this when he came back in the game.  My guess is that it started swelling on him and by the time he came out of the locker room he was in a lot more pain than he was during the game.  I just can't see a guy that has to hold a rail to walk and then hop over to a crate being able to play football without at least limping a little bit.

I watched that play over and over probably a dozen times yesterday and saw no twisting, or helmet to the knee, or anything other than his exposed knee hitting the ground.  And that is exactly when he immediately grabbed for his knee and assumed the fetal position.  It is hard to say what the injury is, but to me it sure looked like it occurred when his knee hit the ground.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 01:32:02 PM
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Well, actually, gingerly doesn’t really describe it all that well. Holding tightly onto the rail, like a child who has put on roller skates for the first time, he would step quickly with his good leg and then almost slide his right foot along the ground.


that doesn't sound good , not at all .

btw ... who is Mark Edwards ? any background ?



I hate to say this, but I have personal experience with what he is describing. It's called a torn meniscus. Even after surgery, walking on an incline or decline (slanted walkway) is absolute torture. Every step you take is like someone jabbing you in the knee with an icepick. You will be hanging onto a rail and pushing off with your arms to support your weight. What they are saying about  AJ is exactly what I have gone through. I had surgery at Dr. Andrews place in St. Vincents, Bham, so it was not some country doctor who did my surgery. Sure hope I am wrong. I had the injury for 3 years and it progressively got worse, but I don't play football, either.


 :-\


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
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Well, actually, gingerly doesn’t really describe it all that well. Holding tightly onto the rail, like a child who has put on roller skates for the first time, he would step quickly with his good leg and then almost slide his right foot along the ground.


that doesn't sound good , not at all .

btw ... who is Mark Edwards ? any background ?



I hate to say this, but I have personal experience with what he is describing. It's called a torn meniscus. Even after surgery, walking on an incline or decline (slanted walkway) is absolute torture. Every step you take is like someone jabbing you in the knee with an icepick. You will be hanging onto a rail and pushing off with your arms to support your weight. What they are saying about  AJ is exactly what I have gone through. I had surgery at Dr. Andrews place in St. Vincents, Bham, so it was not some country doctor who did my surgery. Sure hope I am wrong. I had the injury for 3 years and it progressively got worse, but I don't play football, either.


 :-\

When your injury first occurred, did you have the pain immediately or did it take an hour or so before you had trouble walking?  Do you think AJ could have come back in the game with that kind of injury?  I have absolutely no personal experience with knee injuries.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 02:23:31 PM
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Well, actually, gingerly doesn’t really describe it all that well. Holding tightly onto the rail, like a child who has put on roller skates for the first time, he would step quickly with his good leg and then almost slide his right foot along the ground.


that doesn't sound good , not at all .

btw ... who is Mark Edwards ? any background ?



I hate to say this, but I have personal experience with what he is describing. It's called a torn meniscus. Even after surgery, walking on an incline or decline (slanted walkway) is absolute torture. Every step you take is like someone jabbing you in the knee with an icepick. You will be hanging onto a rail and pushing off with your arms to support your weight. What they are saying about  AJ is exactly what I have gone through. I had surgery at Dr. Andrews place in St. Vincents, Bham, so it was not some country doctor who did my surgery. Sure hope I am wrong. I had the injury for 3 years and it progressively got worse, but I don't play football, either.


 :-\

When your injury first occurred, did you have the pain immediately or did it take an hour or so before you had trouble walking?  Do you think AJ could have come back in the game with that kind of injury?  I have absolutely no personal experience with knee injuries.



My right knee was bothering me and I don't remember any kind of traumatic event which would have caused it. It just kept hurting and hurting for 3 or 4 months, so finally, I went to Andrews place and saw one of the doctors. They did all kind of painful things to my leg and knee as part of the examination (which I observed them doing to AJ), after I had told them my symptoms. After their examination, they said I had a torn meniscus. They said there is nothing they can do except exercises and maybe rehab, but most likely only surgery could help me. Since I was dealing with the pain so well, I said no to surgery. Three years later (2012), I jumped down three stairs in my house while playing with my grand kids and I felt a rush of pain. Now, it was really hurting. I waited about 2 months and went back to the doctor. They said I probably had a partial tear before, but now I had torn it for sure. I had an MRI and yes, I had a torn meniscus.

Did I have a problem walking or was the pain immediately?
No, the doctors and I believe mine may have gradually torn over time and was not an immediate event. However, the jumping down the stairs was immediate, and I was limping right away, but like I said, I am over 50 and not in football playing shape.

Could AJ have come  back into the game? Yes, since he is 30 years younger than me and had that brace on, I think he could endure it. However, he won't last long if he takes another hit or tries to turn or pivot sharply. The pain is unbelievable when you try a quick pivot.

I really hope I am wrong, but that description by the reporter is perfect for my injury.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 02:44:23 PM
It sounds like he may have had a partial tear on the first play, but then maybe he tore it some more by the end of the game.  I sure hope that is not the case.  :(


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: pmull on October 14, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
On TV the sideline reporter said it was a bruised knee. He rode a bike while Missouri had the ball to keep it loose. That is what TV said. CNS said he would be OK in the post game press conference. An injury of this type hurts more once you get off of it and the swelling starts. I'm sure AJ was sore. He will be getting plenty of rest, whirlp pool, heat and ice for his knee this week. I'm not a doctor but if it was too bad he would not have come back into the game.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
I prefer your diagnose pmull.  I also believe you are correct.  I have been searching for updates but have not found anything new.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
AJ seems in good spirits on twitter, but no mention of the knee.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
On TV the sideline reporter said it was a bruised knee. He rode a bike while Missouri had the ball to keep it loose. That is what TV said. CNS said he would be OK in the post game press conference. An injury of this type hurts more once you get off of it and the swelling starts. I'm sure AJ was sore. He will be getting plenty of rest, whirlp pool, heat and ice for his knee this week. I'm not a doctor but if it was too bad he would not have come back into the game.



I sure hope you are right. Riding a stationary bicycle with a meniscus injury was something I could do, no problem. The concern I had was the description of him walking down an incline. That's one of the main signs of a meniscus injury, per the docs & my own injury. That hurts like fire. Hopefully, this is totally cleared up when Saban gives his injury update and they have had time to fully evaluate AJ.


 :dog:


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 06:30:41 PM
I think he is going to be OK.  He doesn't look hurt too bad.

https://twitter.com/KharaCole/status/257600323542212610


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call(Updated)
Post by: Jamos on October 14, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
We can breathe a little easier, A.J's MRI came back negative. I received a text from my son and he's on a pay site, BOL I think. I'm sure there will be some soreness but a week of good therapy and maybe he will be ready to go Saturday. :clap:


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call(Updated)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 07:01:33 PM
We can breathe a little easier, A.J's MRI came back negative. I received a text from my son and he's on a pay site, BOL I think. I'm sure there will be some soreness but a week of good therapy and maybe he will be ready to go Saturday. :clap:


Great news. That's what I was waiting to hear. The MRI will nail that injury in no time. I have my presugery and post surgery MRI pictures here at the house. Maybe I will download them to post here on the site.


 ;)


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 07:06:54 PM
We can breathe a little easier, A.J's MRI came back negative. I received a text from my son and he's on a pay site, BOL I think. I'm sure there will be some soreness but a week of good therapy and maybe he will be ready to go Saturday. :clap:


Great news. That's what I was waiting to hear. The MRI will nail that injury in no time. I have my presugery and post surgery MRI pictures here at the house. Maybe I will download them to post here on the site.


 ;)

I would be interested in seeing those if you really don't mind sharing them.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
We can breathe a little easier, A.J's MRI came back negative. I received a text from my son and he's on a pay site, BOL I think. I'm sure there will be some soreness but a week of good therapy and maybe he will be ready to go Saturday. :clap:


Great news. That's what I was waiting to hear. The MRI will nail that injury in no time. I have my presugery and post surgery MRI pictures here at the house. Maybe I will download them to post here on the site.


 ;)

I would be interested in seeing those if you really don't mind sharing them.


No problem. I will look for the MRI. It looks like a polaroid, about the same size. I am not a computer guy, so if I have problems posting them, I will ask for your help.




Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 07:31:24 PM
I am glad to help.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: pmull on October 14, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 08:27:34 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.



Folks, we just dodged a HUGE bullet. I hope our #2 QB is getting some major reps. Also, if we get up 28-0, 31-7 or something like that in the 3rd quarter, we need to consider putting the backup QB in and let him throw the ball around for practice.


 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 14, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.

You heard it here first:  http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?topic=12600.msg139529#msg139529

Why don't you people listen when I tell ya something?

:lol:


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2012, 08:33:52 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.



Folks, we just dodged a HUGE bullet. I hope our #2 QB is getting some major reps. Also, if we get up 28-0, 31-7 or something like that in the 3rd quarter, we need to consider putting the backup QB in and let him throw the ball around for practice.


 :popcorn2:

Most teams don't have an experienced, talented backup ready to go on a moments notice. I wish this hadn't been brought to the forefront so every headhunter on our schedule will be trying to knock him out (more than usual). I hope Toxik is right about AJ-- that he is plenty tough, has good awareness, and has the best OL in the country watching out for him!


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 08:40:52 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.



Folks, we just dodged a HUGE bullet. I hope our #2 QB is getting some major reps. Also, if we get up 28-0, 31-7 or something like that in the 3rd quarter, we need to consider putting the backup QB in and let him throw the ball around for practice.


 :popcorn2:

Most teams don't have an experienced, talented backup ready to go on a moments notice. I wish this hadn't been brought to the forefront so every headhunter on our schedule will be trying to knock him out (more than usual). I hope Toxic is right about AJ-- that he is plenty tough, has good awareness, and has the best OL in the country watching out for him!



Surely those fine fellas at Tennessee will not go for that sore knee?


 :eyeroll:


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.



Folks, we just dodged a HUGE bullet. I hope our #2 QB is getting some major reps. Also, if we get up 28-0, 31-7 or something like that in the 3rd quarter, we need to consider putting the backup QB in and let him throw the ball around for practice.


 :popcorn2:

Most teams don't have an experienced, talented backup ready to go on a moments notice. I wish this hadn't been brought to the forefront so every headhunter on our schedule will be trying to knock him out (more than usual). I hope Toxic is right about AJ-- that he is plenty tough, has good awareness, and has the best OL in the country watching out for him!



Surely those fine fellas at Tennessee will not go for that sore knee?


 :eyeroll:
Yep. But Miss St. and the barn also go for the season/career enders.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 14, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
CNS just confirmed on the ESPN BCS show that AJ's injury was a bruised knee. He said he would be fine in a day or two. He also said there was very little swelling.



Folks, we just dodged a HUGE bullet. I hope our #2 QB is getting some major reps. Also, if we get up 28-0, 31-7 or something like that in the 3rd quarter, we need to consider putting the backup QB in and let him throw the ball around for practice.


 :popcorn2:

Most teams don't have an experienced, talented backup ready to go on a moments notice. I wish this hadn't been brought to the forefront so every headhunter on our schedule will be trying to knock him out (more than usual). I hope Toxic is right about AJ-- that he is plenty tough, has good awareness, and has the best OL in the country watching out for him!



Surely those fine fellas at Tennessee will not go for that sore knee?


 :eyeroll:
Yep. But Miss St. and the barn also go for the season/career enders.


Yep, I was thinking the same thing, especially Miss. State.


Title: Re: Bama gets a wakeup call (Updated)
Post by: Jamos on October 14, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
Roll Tide!  :clap: