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Title: Georgia Signees
Post by: lstephen on February 06, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
How does Mark Richt sign 32 players today?  I thought the SEC rule was 25?


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: SUPERCOACH on February 06, 2013, 06:39:07 PM
I thought so too, and I heard Florida signed 28.


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: hscoach on February 06, 2013, 06:41:06 PM
I think it has to do with how many scholarship players you have on your roster.


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: lstephen on February 06, 2013, 07:11:27 PM
I know there's an NCAA limit of 85 at one time but didn't the SEC institue a 25 per class rule a few years ago after Orgeron signed 38?


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: ricky023 on February 06, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
I also wondered about all this signing over 25. I thought it was a rule. I look at it as they signed more than us and CNS still took #1. RTR!


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 06, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
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The SEC rule ... allows an annual exception for teams to sign more than 25. That is possible if one or more signees can be counted backward toward the previous year's class. There must be spots available in the previous class to do so.

The maximum 25 new scholarship players who can enroll each academic year are called "initial counters." Almost always, initial counters are players who were recruited to be put on scholarship upon enrolling for their first year.

How does counting backward work? If a team shows up in the fall and adds, for instance, 20 new initial counters to go with 65 returning players, it would be maxed out at the NCAA limit of 85 scholarships and there would be five initial counters the team didn't use.

Come December and January, the team could add five mid-year enrollees who count back toward the previous class if there are at least five current players whose eligibility ended. The mid-year enrollees could be any combination of junior college and four-year college transfers or early graduates from high school.

If that team brought in a sixth mid-year enrollee, one of those six mid-year enrollees would have to be counted forward, reducing the size of the upcoming signing class from 25 to 24.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/sec_learning_to_live_with_new.html


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: lstephen on February 07, 2013, 08:36:09 AM
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The SEC rule ... allows an annual exception for teams to sign more than 25. That is possible if one or more signees can be counted backward toward the previous year's class. There must be spots available in the previous class to do so.

The maximum 25 new scholarship players who can enroll each academic year are called "initial counters." Almost always, initial counters are players who were recruited to be put on scholarship upon enrolling for their first year.

How does counting backward work? If a team shows up in the fall and adds, for instance, 20 new initial counters to go with 65 returning players, it would be maxed out at the NCAA limit of 85 scholarships and there would be five initial counters the team didn't use.

Come December and January, the team could add five mid-year enrollees who count back toward the previous class if there are at least five current players whose eligibility ended. The mid-year enrollees could be any combination of junior college and four-year college transfers or early graduates from high school.

If that team brought in a sixth mid-year enrollee, one of those six mid-year enrollees would have to be counted forward, reducing the size of the upcoming signing class from 25 to 24.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/sec_learning_to_live_with_new.html

Thanks.  Not quite sure I understand it all.  But I now understand there's a way "around" the 25 limit!


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 07, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
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The SEC rule ... allows an annual exception for teams to sign more than 25. That is possible if one or more signees can be counted backward toward the previous year's class. There must be spots available in the previous class to do so.

The maximum 25 new scholarship players who can enroll each academic year are called "initial counters." Almost always, initial counters are players who were recruited to be put on scholarship upon enrolling for their first year.

How does counting backward work? If a team shows up in the fall and adds, for instance, 20 new initial counters to go with 65 returning players, it would be maxed out at the NCAA limit of 85 scholarships and there would be five initial counters the team didn't use.

Come December and January, the team could add five mid-year enrollees who count back toward the previous class if there are at least five current players whose eligibility ended. The mid-year enrollees could be any combination of junior college and four-year college transfers or early graduates from high school.

If that team brought in a sixth mid-year enrollee, one of those six mid-year enrollees would have to be counted forward, reducing the size of the upcoming signing class from 25 to 24.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/sec_learning_to_live_with_new.html

Thanks.  Not quite sure I understand it all.  But I now understand there's a way "around" the 25 limit!
Yeah, I don't get much of it either.  The one important point seems to be that teams can count new signees towards last years class if are JC or they enroll early (and the team didn't use all 25 scholy's the previous year).  Georgia has about 12 early enrollees this Spring, so some of those 32 must be counting towards last year's class.


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: pmull on February 07, 2013, 09:31:06 AM
It is best to not and try to figure out how many scholarships a team can give and to what year they are applied. It will give you a headache. HTH


Title: Re: Georgia Signees
Post by: ricky023 on February 07, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Well I say thanks, reading this rule makes sense about how teams sign more than 25. My question has been answered. RTR!