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Title: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 08:00:28 AM
A win today and we should get in the Tournament barring a major collapse. A loss today and we must win our two remaining games and make a deep run in the SEC Tournament and hope for the best. Florida in undeated at home this year. A win today also puts us in a three way tie for first place in the SEC with us holding the tie breaker advantage.

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The Alabama men's basketball team will travel to Gainesville, Fla., where it will take on the No. 8/6 Florida Gators on Saturday afternoon. The contest is set to tip off at noon ET (11 a.m. CT) and will be televised on ESPN.

"We are looking forward to the challenge of going on the road and playing a team the caliber of Florida," UA head coach Anthony Grant said. "I'm really impressed watching them on film and what they've been able to accomplish over the course of the season. Obviously, they are coming off a tough loss at Tennessee and they were not 100-percent healthy at the time. We understand they will have a full complement of players for our game. We're 15 games into the conference schedule and we find ourselves tied for second place. The things we've talked about, having the opportunity to control our destiny. It's in our hands and I think the guys are excited about it. We're looking forward to the challenge."

The match-up will pit the top two teams in the Southeastern Conference heading into the final three regular season games. The Tide (19-9, 11-4 SEC) comes into the contest trailing the Gators (22-5, 12-3) by one game in the league standings.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030113aae.html


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 02, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
This game should show where we really stand.  On the road v. a Florida team coming off a loss couldn't be a tougher challenge.  Probably won't be any problem with the team taking their foot off the gas.  Key will be to hang with Florida early, don't let them get a big lead on their home court, and then finish the game.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 09:14:26 AM
Tenn and Arky have shown UF to be vulnerable (on road). Both big men for UF are horrible on the foul line. Here is an opportunity for Gueye to put his skill to use if he doesn't waste the fouls on them while taking 10' jumpers.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 11:12:46 AM
UF gets opening tip off of Gueye. Who would have dreamed...

UF up 11-8 -Lacey with 2 3s.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
UF with a 12 point run. 19-8  >:(


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 11:29:08 AM
Bama has it back to 3.   #+


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 11:42:04 AM
UF 27-22. Pollard with 4 pts. and 4 rebs. Jacobs with 4 and 3 rebs.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
UF 29-26(half). Bama hanging tough. Jacobs with another. Defense wearing on Florida's nerves.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 02, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
We have slowed UF down. They had 19 points with 12:40 to play. They scored 9 points the rest of the way and allowed us to get back in the game.

We are hanging tough but we do not need to just play well we need to win.

Billy The Kid is making halftime adjustments right now. I hope CAG is a step ahead of him.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 12:01:46 PM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 02, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.
There have been several games this season where Bama has run down the clock excessively and then taken a poor shot with the clock expiring.  You don't need to run the clock down to that last tick -- you want to preserve time for rebounding and tip ins.  Bama almost got it right against LSU in OT, Cooper just needed a fraction of a second more for the tip back.

If this were an isolated incident, it would be on Randolph (who does seem timid about shooting, and in crowds).  But because Bama consistently has missed these opportunities, I think coaching is involved.  If nothing else, devote more time in practice to those final seconds.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.
Listening to the home crowd countdown?


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 12:17:11 PM
14:43 33-33


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
Bama by 8 12:30-- Releford shooting 1. RTR


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 01:04:28 PM
 :(  Final score not indicative of the competition Bama put on the floor today.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: ricky023 on March 02, 2013, 01:13:26 PM
I have just got home, but the way it sounds we lost to UF today. We were expected to lose so if we played them close that should help us on the big dance. RTR!


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
We played well today but we needed the win. The two bogus offensive charge calls hurt us bad. It would have stopped the Florida momentum and kept us in the game. Winning on the road is hard because the calls will not go your way.

We have to beat Ole Miss Tuesday in Oxford and Georgia at home next Saturday. That will get us a two round bye until Friday in Nashville. We will need one or maybe two wins to have any shot at a Tournament bid.

The NCAA Tournament is tons of fun when your team is in it. I don't want to go to the NIT.

 


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 02, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
Great effort by the team.  Florida had many more free throws than Bama, Bama not getting many calls their way.  Game was a lot closer than the final score.

You can't win a game going stone cold for several minutes, allowing your opponent to go on a 15-0 run.  This seems fairly common with this Alabama team, going stone cold.  What's the deal with that?  Not enough players able to step up and break the ice?  Team still too young?  For now, that is what is holding this team back, the difference between being an NCAA Tournament team and a bubble team. 


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: hscoach on March 02, 2013, 02:02:08 PM
We played well today but we needed the win. The two bogus offensive charge calls hurt us bad. It would have stopped the Florida momentum and kept us in the game. Winning on the road is hard because the calls will not go your way.

We have to beat Ole Miss Tuesday in Oxford and Georgia at home next Saturday. That will get us a two round bye until Friday in Nashville. We will need one or maybe two wins to have any shot at a Tournament bid.

The NCAA Tournament is tons of fun when your team is in it. I don't want to go to the NIT.

 

I don't watch a lot of basketball unless Bama is playing.  I also thought the charging fouls were bogus.  I also, thought UF got a lot of fouls called for them that Bama didn't.  This being said Bama has to do a better job at the foul line when they get there. 


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 03:34:44 PM
I was glad to see Lacey hit those 2 3's early on, but I knew that meant trouble. He went 2-12 afterwards. Lacey is a good shooter if given room and time to set his feet and square to the goal. But it seems no one has the guts to tell him when not to shoot.

Releford is the only consistent scorer. If he gets bottled up or defended, or comes out for a breather, --that is when our scoring droughts occur. You can only defend him for so long, and he eventually figures out how to beat the "D". Other teams know we are a "one trick pony". That is why when Cooper, Lacey Randolph, or Jacobs get a few scores, the heat comes off of Releford, and we make runs to catch up from the drought.

Gueye wasted all his PFs. I thought we may have finally found a role for him, but no. The UF big guys combined for 24 pts.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 03:47:25 PM
The SEC needs to make Florida do something about the lack of room around the court. The players on the bench have their feet on the playing floor, no room on the end lines, etc. It is not safe for the players.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 04:09:06 PM
You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.
That was the dagger. I yelled at the tv. The woman came to see what was wrong.

 >:(


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
Arkansas up by 15 on Kentucky 6:24


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 02, 2013, 05:02:10 PM
Arkansas up by 15 on Kentucky 6:24

Tenn lost today and Ole Miss is struggling with Miss State right now. We are still in control of the No. 2 spot in the SEC.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 02, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
Arkansas up by 15 on Kentucky 6:24

Tenn lost today and Ole Miss is struggling with Miss State right now. We are still in control of the No. 2 spot in the SEC.
Arkansas up 12  2:13--- DAGGER!


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: McBaman on March 02, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
OK...KY and Ole Miss both lost today so maybe there's still hope.  But only if we win both vs. Ole Miss and UGA.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 02, 2013, 09:39:42 PM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.
There have been several games this season where Bama has run down the clock excessively and then taken a poor shot with the clock expiring.  You don't need to run the clock down to that last tick -- you want to preserve time for rebounding and tip ins.  Bama almost got it right against LSU in OT, Cooper just needed a fraction of a second more for the tip back.

If this were an isolated incident, it would be on Randolph (who does seem timid about shooting, and in crowds).  But because Bama consistently has missed these opportunities, I think coaching is involved.  If nothing else, devote more time in practice to those final seconds.


I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year.


 :deadhorse: 


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: BAMAWV on March 03, 2013, 04:18:39 AM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.
There have been several games this season where Bama has run down the clock excessively and then taken a poor shot with the clock expiring.  You don't need to run the clock down to that last tick -- you want to preserve time for rebounding and tip ins.  Bama almost got it right against LSU in OT, Cooper just needed a fraction of a second more for the tip back.

If this were an isolated incident, it would be on Randolph (who does seem timid about shooting, and in crowds).  But because Bama consistently has missed these opportunities, I think coaching is involved.  If nothing else, devote more time in practice to those final seconds.


I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year.


 :deadhorse: 
So your solution is to simply score more points? Brilliant!


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 03, 2013, 07:38:42 AM
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I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year. 

The assistant needs to be 6'-10" with eligibilty remaining capible of putting up a double-double every game.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 03, 2013, 08:05:27 AM
You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.
Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset.  What's the rule?


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 03, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.
Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset.  What's the rule?

The shot hit the goal. Shot clock resets.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 03, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
So your solution is to simply score more points? Brilliant!
I bet it would work!

My issues are clock management and scoring droughts.  Clock management can be addressed in practice.  The way to address scoring droughts is having several players capable of stepping up when needed.  As you said, Releford is the only consistent scorer.  Because none of the other players are consistent, it has to be a numbers game -- having enough players who are partially consistent, maybe one of them will get hot at the right time, or hit something.  Cooper has done it before, as has Lacey.  Jacobs has the possibility, though Florida knew that and started double covering him during the drought.

Looking at the season stats, Releford then Lacey are the leading scorers.  Cooper and Randolph are the leading rebounders!  (Gueye, Jacobs?)  And Lacey then Releford are the leading assists.  Maybe next year, when Pollard and Obasohan should be improved, will there be enough scorers. 

Dakota Slaughter is the 11th scholarship?  An Julian Goode, Keon Blackledge, and Isiah Wilson are Junior walk-ons?


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 03, 2013, 08:31:30 AM
You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.
Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset. What's the rule?


The shot hit the goal. Shot clock resets.

Oh yeah.   :-[  

I guess I got confused because it seems the clock should always be reset, as it should be considered a new possession on a jump ball, but that's not the rule when a team retains the ball.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play   #+

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    :-\


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.
There have been several games this season where Bama has run down the clock excessively and then taken a poor shot with the clock expiring.  You don't need to run the clock down to that last tick -- you want to preserve time for rebounding and tip ins.  Bama almost got it right against LSU in OT, Cooper just needed a fraction of a second more for the tip back.

If this were an isolated incident, it would be on Randolph (who does seem timid about shooting, and in crowds).  But because Bama consistently has missed these opportunities, I think coaching is involved.  If nothing else, devote more time in practice to those final seconds.


I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year.


 :deadhorse: 
So your solution is to simply score more points? Brilliant!



No my solution is to develop a better offense &/or game plan and one that does not shut down for 10 minutes and to shoot FT's better. It's called practice.


 :4:


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 03, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
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I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year. 

The assistant needs to be 6'-10" with eligibilty remaining capible of putting up a double-double every game.



LOL!!! Now that is a great idea! Magic Johnson left school early, could we get a waiver on someone like him? Maybe someone who left school early, say around 2001 but could not cut it in the NBA and we could hire.


 ???






 :lol2:



Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on March 04, 2013, 07:10:53 PM
Bama by 8 12:30-- Releford shooting 1. RTR

This is the point where I thought we had them.  But then our offense decides to go on a 10 minute drought like it usually does at least once per game.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on March 04, 2013, 07:22:36 PM
They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 04, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).



Winning 20 games is not the standard anymore in college BB. When there were 26/27 regular season games 15 years ago, then 20 wins was significant. Schedules are now 30/31 games during the regular season. Winning 22/23 even 24 games during the regular season is the new standard. It's like college football when there were 10 regular season games and winning 8 games was a solid season. Not anymore.


 :dog:


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 04, 2013, 08:13:53 PM
They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

The last 3 20 win season in a row were 90,91,92 under Wimp Sanderson. 92 was Wimp's last year. We had 20 win seasons and NCAA bids in 7 out of his last 8 years.

Getting 20 wins is not the automatic bid to the tournament like it used to be but it is still a milestone teams strive for.

Grant is not on the hot seat IMO. We are top 4 in the SEC and on the NCAA bubble. Things could be a lot worse. Grant's best days at Alabama are ahead of him. We lose one player (Steele) off this team. Everyone else will be back.

I am excited about the future of Alabama Basketball with Coach Grant.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 04, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

The last 3 20 win season in a row were 90,91,92 under Wimp Sanderson. 92 was Wimp's last year. We had 20 win seasons and NCAA bids in 7 out of his last 8 years.

Getting 20 wins is not the automatic bid to the tournament like it used to be but it is still a milestone teams strive for.

Grant is not on the hot seat IMO. We are top 4 in the SEC and on the NCAA bubble. Things could be a lot worse. Grant's best days at Alabama are ahead of him. We lose one player (Steele) off this team. Everyone else will be back.

I am excited about the future of Alabama Basketball with Coach Grant.




The hot seat will definitely be next year if things do not progress significantly. We can not lose to teams like Auburn, Tulane, Mercer, & other borderline teams.

 :dog:


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 04, 2013, 11:34:33 PM
No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 05, 2013, 01:34:39 PM
No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.



That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


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Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: pmull on March 05, 2013, 01:56:16 PM
No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.



That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


 :pullhair:


Releford is a good college player but I don't think he will get drafted or ever play in the NBA. I don't think he leaves early to go overseas to play. JMHO


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: SUPERCOACH on March 05, 2013, 02:18:49 PM
No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.



That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


 :pullhair:


Releford is a good college player but I don't think he will get drafted or ever play in the NBA. I don't think he leaves early to go overseas to play. JMHO


I agree.


Title: Re: Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 06, 2013, 06:57:00 AM
No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.



That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


 :pullhair:


Releford is a good college player but I don't think he will get drafted or ever play in the NBA. I don't think he leaves early to go overseas to play. JMHO


I agree.
I think Releford comes back too, but you never know, the allure of money is real.

If he does return, I do see Releford as having NBA potential.  His game picked up this year a good bit over last year, and if he improves again for next year, then he could be noticed.  That's why I think he returns, give another year to work on his game.

I remember the year Bama made the NCAA Tourney, and I knew it might be a problem, because Antonio McDyess had been under the radar all season, but once his athleticism came through in the NCAA Tourney, he was history.  I don't see this happening with Releford, but that was a year Bama might have been better off in the NIT.