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Title: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on April 18, 2013, 11:28:05 AM
I am getting ready to replace the windows on my house. I am tired of painting and replacing the sills on my old wooden double hung windows. I also have one window pane that the insulated glass seal is broke and it has fogged up.

Window World is popular in my area. They have a $189 any size window (48 x 78 Max) installed price. Is this a good window? The price seems very good so it makes be wonder how good of a deal it really is.

If you have used someone else I would be interested in your comments on them too.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: KoKoPuf on April 18, 2013, 01:32:50 PM
We used Simonton windows 2 years ago. I did lots of research and Simonton seemed to have best ratings. Bought mine at ABC Supply in Huntsville (national chain) and got a very good price. So far they have been very good and I did notice a difference in my utility bills.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on April 18, 2013, 02:29:30 PM
We used Simonton windows 2 years ago. I did lots of research and Simonton seemed to have best ratings. Bought mine at ABC Supply in Huntsville (national chain) and got a very good price. So far they have been very good and I did notice a difference in my utility bills.

Did you buy them installed or did you install them yourself? I don't think I want to tackle installing them myself.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: KoKoPuf on April 19, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
We had both "New Windows" and replacement windows. We were closing in a back porch and the contractor installed the "New" windows. I hired an installer recommended by ABC to install the replacement windows. Amazing how quickly those guys can replace a window!


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: BAMAWV on April 19, 2013, 10:49:34 AM
I bought the windows and put them in myself. Nice double pane windows, but the real expense is the labor. I had never done it before. The first one was hard. The second not quite as bad. By #3 and #4 I was an old pro and 4-20 sailed by. It was the best $$$ I ever spent on the house. The comfort level went through the roof. 


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on April 19, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
I bought the windows and put them in myself. Nice double pane windows, but the real expense is the labor. I had never done it before. The first one was hard. The second not quite as bad. By #3 and #4 I was an old pro and 4-20 sailed by. It was the best $$$ I ever spent on the house. The comfort level went through the roof. 

I know new windows will not only look good but be more energy efficent than my old wooden windows. A few years ago I had more insulation blown into my attic. Two years ago I put in a new heating and cooling unit. The insulation helped. The energy savings on the heating and cooling unit was huge. If I keep making all these energy saving repairs Decatur Utilities will have to send me a check each month. LOL


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on April 19, 2013, 11:35:33 AM
You can always tell what home project I have going on by looking at my CRS page. Right now in the ad spots there is nothing but windows. It is a little scary how these computers track everything you google.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: BAMAWV on April 19, 2013, 04:35:36 PM
You can always tell what home project I have going on by looking at my CRS page. Right now in the ad spots there is nothing but windows. It is a little scary how these computers track everything you google.
For the last month, car (SUV) ads have chased me around the innerwebz.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: Leroy on April 19, 2013, 07:50:18 PM

 :o It's probably a good thing that you didn't buy a smart car WV!!!


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/547118_611687302193736_847173480_n.jpg)


  ;)


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: BAMAWV on April 19, 2013, 07:57:39 PM

 :o It's probably a good thing that you didn't buy a smart car WV!!!


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/547118_611687302193736_847173480_n.jpg)


  ;)
What in the H is that? You couldn't even make it from the house to the road with that. I do like the moon hub caps.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: cbbama99 on May 05, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
You can always tell what home project I have going on by looking at my CRS page. Right now in the ad spots there is nothing but windows. It is a little scary how these computers track everything you google.
For the last month, car (SUV) ads have chased me around the innerwebz.

It could always be worse. Every time I log on lately, I get ads wanting me to buy season tickets to Maryland football this year, with a picture of those gosh awful uniforms they are going to wear.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on May 07, 2013, 11:17:35 AM
After doing a little research I will not be hiring Window World to replace my windows. By the time I add for Low E glass with argon gas, trim wrap, haul off old windows and upgrade to a better window they are as high as anyone else. They also have a bad reputation and they are not rated by better business bureau.

I am going with a small family owned business who specialize in vinyl windows and siding. They cost slightly more but I was impressed with their Simonton windows and their expertise. They have been in business locally for 30 years. The old man started the business, the daughter came out and gave me a quote and measured and the son in law will do the install. They were able to show me three installations near my home.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: KoKoPuf on May 07, 2013, 12:28:11 PM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on May 07, 2013, 01:13:17 PM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: BAMAWV on May 10, 2013, 04:58:45 PM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.
Don't let 'em slide on the caulk. Top notch brand, probably 8-10 cases should be laying around before they start.  Old windows can be removed without tearing them up, so negotiate what happens. As soon as I started the job people started stopping by or calling to ask for them. They reuse in other houses, but mostly for gardening sheds, green or hot houses, and other out buildings. The contractors will offer to take then away but they MAKE money on resale. I gave mine to a poor guy that he sold (aluminum for scrap.) Mine were masonryed in and got tore up (especially the first few). Keep a master file on the serial# and/or measurements of EACH window. No longer is the day when you gave the ball back to the neighbor kid and then went to the glass pacle for a replacement pane. The entire section pops out and is about a 5 minute replacement after your section (top/botton) arrives. All my windows are customs meaning maybe only a few match up measurement wise. Good measuring is essential, for those just starting out. 


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on May 10, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.
Don't let 'em slide on the caulk. Top notch brand, probably 8-10 cases should be laying around before they start.  Old windows can be removed without tearing them up, so negotiate what happens. As soon as I started the job people started stopping by or calling to ask for them. They reuse in other houses, but mostly for gardening sheds, green or hot houses, and other out buildings. The contractors will offer to take then away but they MAKE money on resale. I gave mine to a poor guy that he sold (aluminum for scrap.) Mine were masonryed in and got tore up (especially the first few). Keep a master file on the serial# and/or measurements of EACH window. No longer is the day when you gave the ball back to the neighbor kid and then went to the glass pacle for a replacement pane. The entire section pops out and is about a 5 minute replacement after your section (top/botton) arrives. All my windows are customs meaning maybe only a few match up measurement wise. Good measuring is essential, for those just starting out.  

I spent a lot of time talking to the installer about trim, flashing and sealants. I have been in the construction field all my adult life so I know a little about weatherproofing. One reason I went with this company is because of the installer.

I am giving the windows to a friend of mine who wants them to to biuld a greenhouse. It is a shed with a lot of windows. LOL, Alabama greenhouse.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on May 12, 2013, 08:20:26 AM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.
Don't let 'em slide on the caulk. Top notch brand, probably 8-10 cases should be laying around before they start.  Old windows can be removed without tearing them up, so negotiate what happens. As soon as I started the job people started stopping by or calling to ask for them. They reuse in other houses, but mostly for gardening sheds, green or hot houses, and other out buildings. The contractors will offer to take then away but they MAKE money on resale. I gave mine to a poor guy that he sold (aluminum for scrap.) Mine were masonryed in and got tore up (especially the first few). Keep a master file on the serial# and/or measurements of EACH window. No longer is the day when you gave the ball back to the neighbor kid and then went to the glass pacle for a replacement pane. The entire section pops out and is about a 5 minute replacement after your section (top/botton) arrives. All my windows are customs meaning maybe only a few match up measurement wise. Good measuring is essential, for those just starting out. 

I reread your post. I agree that caulking is important but I do not want 8-10 cases of caulk on my windows. Twelve tubes to a case. I want the joints much tighter than that. The installer will spray foam insulation around all sides of the new window. The installation includes trim capping around the old window frame so it becomes a maintence free window. It should not take a lot of caulk.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: BAMAWV on May 12, 2013, 11:05:25 AM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.
Don't let 'em slide on the caulk. Top notch brand, probably 8-10 cases should be laying around before they start.  Old windows can be removed without tearing them up, so negotiate what happens. As soon as I started the job people started stopping by or calling to ask for them. They reuse in other houses, but mostly for gardening sheds, green or hot houses, and other out buildings. The contractors will offer to take then away but they MAKE money on resale. I gave mine to a poor guy that he sold (aluminum for scrap.) Mine were masonryed in and got tore up (especially the first few). Keep a master file on the serial# and/or measurements of EACH window. No longer is the day when you gave the ball back to the neighbor kid and then went to the glass pacle for a replacement pane. The entire section pops out and is about a 5 minute replacement after your section (top/botton) arrives. All my windows are customs meaning maybe only a few match up measurement wise. Good measuring is essential, for those just starting out. 

I reread your post. I agree that caulking is important but I do not want 8-10 cases of caulk on my windows. Twelve tubes to a case. I want the joints much tighter than that. The installer will spray foam insulation around all sides of the new window. The installation includes trim capping around the old window frame so it becomes a maintence free window. It should not take a lot of caulk.
Mine were in masonry. Seems I had a case left afterwards so I was caulking all over the house for a month. I remember how nervous I was during the first big storm-- 60-70 gusts-- not a problem. The entire quality of life went up with new windows.  Perhaps the singlemost  best thing you can do for your house. The new electric furnace was also a good move, noticeable difference, but not as much as the windows. Also, the Gen-Vac is getting close to paying itself off (ahead of schedule).


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on May 12, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
I'm very satisfied with the Simonton windows we used, and it made a noticeable difference in my utility bill.

JD Power ranks Simonton the # 1 replacement window. I am looking forward to getting them put in. They said it would take about 4 weeks to get them.
Don't let 'em slide on the caulk. Top notch brand, probably 8-10 cases should be laying around before they start.  Old windows can be removed without tearing them up, so negotiate what happens. As soon as I started the job people started stopping by or calling to ask for them. They reuse in other houses, but mostly for gardening sheds, green or hot houses, and other out buildings. The contractors will offer to take then away but they MAKE money on resale. I gave mine to a poor guy that he sold (aluminum for scrap.) Mine were masonryed in and got tore up (especially the first few). Keep a master file on the serial# and/or measurements of EACH window. No longer is the day when you gave the ball back to the neighbor kid and then went to the glass pacle for a replacement pane. The entire section pops out and is about a 5 minute replacement after your section (top/botton) arrives. All my windows are customs meaning maybe only a few match up measurement wise. Good measuring is essential, for those just starting out. 

I reread your post. I agree that caulking is important but I do not want 8-10 cases of caulk on my windows. Twelve tubes to a case. I want the joints much tighter than that. The installer will spray foam insulation around all sides of the new window. The installation includes trim capping around the old window frame so it becomes a maintence free window. It should not take a lot of caulk.
Mine were in masonry. Seems I had a case left afterwards so I was caulking all over the house for a month. I remember how nervous I was during the first big storm-- 60-70 gusts-- not a problem. The entire quality of life went up with new windows.  Perhaps the singlemost  best thing you can do for your house. The new electric furnace was also a good move, noticeable difference, but not as much as the windows. Also, the Gen-Vac is getting close to paying itself off (ahead of schedule).

The cost saving when I replaced my gas heat and electric cooling system was huge. More than I expected. I am getting the Low E with argon gas glass in my windows. The insulated glass unit is 1" thick. I have been told this will make a big different in utility bills.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on June 18, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 18, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:

Well played on her part.  You are buying a new house one nail at a time, you just don't realize it yet.  :lol:


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on June 18, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:

Well played on her part.  You are buying a new house one nail at a time, you just don't realize it yet.  :lol:

This has been going on for a while. We had ceramic tile flooring put in the kitchen and bathrooms. That made the counter tops, cabinets, sinks and faucets look bad so they had to be replaced (cabinets refinished). That looked pretty good but she said the kitchen appliances needed to be replaced with stainless steel appliances. I drew the line there. We got the less expensive stainless steel look ones.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 18, 2013, 11:59:37 AM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:

Well played on her part.  You are buying a new house one nail at a time, you just don't realize it yet.  :lol:

This has been going on for a while. We had ceramic tile flooring put in the kitchen and bathrooms. That made the counter tops, cabinets, sinks and faucets look bad so they had to be replaced (cabinets refinished). That looked pretty good but she said the kitchen appliances needed to be replaced with stainless steel appliances. I drew the line there. We got the less expensive stainless steel look ones.


Not a good move.  Now you are going to end up buying 2 sets of appliances when all is said and done.  :lol:


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on June 18, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
I'd be cancelling HGTV pronto.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 18, 2013, 12:17:01 PM
I'd be cancelling HGTV pronto.

^^^THIS^^^  :lol:

On a related note, my kids have been watching "Treehouse Masters".  I think I am in trouble.  :(


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: ricky023 on June 18, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
Oh my, don't mention HGTV, my wife is hooked on that stuff. RTR!


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: pmull on June 18, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:

Well played on her part.  You are buying a new house one nail at a time, you just don't realize it yet.  :lol:

This has been going on for a while. We had ceramic tile flooring put in the kitchen and bathrooms. That made the counter tops, cabinets, sinks and faucets look bad so they had to be replaced (cabinets refinished). That looked pretty good but she said the kitchen appliances needed to be replaced with stainless steel appliances. I drew the line there. We got the less expensive stainless steel look ones.


Not a good move.  Now you are going to end up buying 2 sets of appliances when all is said and done.  :lol:

It actually turned out to be a good move. We did not know it at the time but stainless steel is hard to keep clean, especially fingerprints. I think she is happy with what we have. Of course she may just be sidetracked wanting hardwood floors.


Title: Re: Window World Replacement Windows
Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 18, 2013, 01:53:08 PM
They finished up the install of my new windows yesterday. They look great. I never have to paint or repair damaged window sills again. Now I am looking forward to seeing what effect the new windows have on the utility bill.

We have a 20 year old house. I have a new roof, new heating-cooling unit and new windows. My wife has already started on me about wanting hardwood floors in several rooms now.  :pullhair:

Well played on her part.  You are buying a new house one nail at a time, you just don't realize it yet.  :lol:

This has been going on for a while. We had ceramic tile flooring put in the kitchen and bathrooms. That made the counter tops, cabinets, sinks and faucets look bad so they had to be replaced (cabinets refinished). That looked pretty good but she said the kitchen appliances needed to be replaced with stainless steel appliances. I drew the line there. We got the less expensive stainless steel look ones.


Not a good move.  Now you are going to end up buying 2 sets of appliances when all is said and done.  :lol:

It actually turned out to be a good move. We did not know it at the time but stainless steel is hard to keep clean, especially fingerprints. I think she is happy with what we have. Of course she may just be sidetracked wanting hardwood floors.

I didn't think about the fingerprint issue.  I can attest that it is a real issue.  Now I just hope that I don't end up buying a 2nd set to get rid of the stainless.  :(