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Title: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: N.AL-Tider on May 07, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
For induction to the College Hall of Fame. (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/05/the_late_derrick_thomas_again.html#incart_more_sports)  Sad...


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: SUPERCOACH on May 07, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
I am not surprised by this.  They did not even mention he was a candidate on College Football Live.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: SUPERCOACH on May 07, 2013, 11:57:02 AM
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As a senior in 1988, Thomas set an NCAA record that still stands when he registered 27 sacks. He tied Leroy Cook’s record of sacks in one game (4) against Kentucky, and two months later, he broke that record with five sacks against Texas A&M.

Thomas finished his career with an NCAA-record 52 sacks, a mark that was tied by Arizona’s Ted Bruschi (1992-95).

Ted Bruschi got in instead of 55.  I will be shocked if anyone comes close to 5 sacks in one game any time soon.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: pmull on May 07, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
He certainly looks qualified to me. He was All-American, Butkus Award winner, 10th in Heisman voting and set all kinds of Alabama and NCAA records.



Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: ricky023 on May 07, 2013, 03:35:07 PM
I think he will get in next year. Keep a good thought. The coaches I could not argue with. I had a couple of players that might have been questionable. RTR!


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: cbbama99 on May 07, 2013, 04:01:58 PM
Exactly why so many hall of fame inductions and awards are meaningless as far as I am concerned: to much politics and not enough people with extensive knowledge of the game making picks.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: pmull on May 07, 2013, 04:04:27 PM
Exactly why so many hall of fame inductions and awards are meaningless as far as I am concerned: to much politics and not enough people with extensive knowledge of the game making picks.

I also think they do not want too many from one school.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: ricky023 on May 07, 2013, 04:10:59 PM
Exactly why so many hall of fame inductions and awards are meaningless as far as I am concerned: to much politics and not enough people with extensive knowledge of the game making picks.

I also think they do not want too many from one school.


Yep, agreeing to both posts. They can have their on agenda and nothing we can do about it. RTR!


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: cbbama99 on May 07, 2013, 04:14:44 PM
Exactly why so many hall of fame inductions and awards are meaningless as far as I am concerned: to much politics and not enough people with extensive knowledge of the game making picks.

I also think they do not want too many from one school.

Perhaps, but I looked at a school-by-school breakdown of players in the HOF:

Notre Dame   43, Michigan 30, USC 28, Ohio State 27, Army 24, Pittsburgh 24, Penn State   22, Oklahoma 22, Minnesota 22, Princeton 21, Yale 21, Tennessee 20, Navy   19, Alabama 18, Pennsylvania   18, Texas 17, Harvard 17, Stanford   16, California   15, Nebraska 14, UCLA   14   


Also, a look at their criteria:

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Hall of Fame Criteria:
FIRST AND FOREMOST, A PLAYER MUST HAVE RECEIVED FIRST TEAM ALL-AMERICA RECOGNITION BY A SELECTOR RECOGNIZED BY THE NCAA AND UTILIZED TO COMPRISE THEIR CONSENSUS ALL-AMERICA TEAMS.
A player becomes eligible for consideration by the NFF's Honors Court ten years after his last year of intercollegiate football played.
While each nominee's football achievements in college are of prime consideration, his post-football record as a citizen is also weighed. He must have proven himself worthy as a citizen, carrying the ideals of football forward into his relations with his community. Consideration may also be given for academic honors and whether or not the candidate earned a college degree.
In accordance to the 50-year rule*, players must have played their last year of intercollegiate football within the last 50 years. For example, to be eligible for the 2013 ballot, the player must have played his last year in 1961 or thereafter. In addition, current professional players and / or coaches are not eligible until retirement.
A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement or immediately following retirement provided he is at least 70 years old. Active coaches become eligible at 75 years of age. He must have been a head coach for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games with a .600 winning percentage*.


Voting Procedure:
NOMINATIONS MAY BE MADE ONLY BY A DUES-PAYING MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL FOUNDATION OR BY ATHLETICS DIRECTORS, COACHES OR CoSIDA MEMBERS REPRESENTING DUES-PAYING COLLEGES/UNIVERSITIES.
Statistics, newspaper/magazine clippings, records and personal recommendations by coaches, fellow players and opponents are all considered.
The National Football Foundation staff will screen each candidate. After ascertaining that the nomination satisfies all requirements, the nominee is submitted to the District Screening Committee (DSC) nearest to the institution where the nominee played. New nominees as well as individuals who appeared on the previous year's ballot will be included in this process.
Only the top vote-getters (approx. 60 players) from the DSC are forwarded to The National Football Foundation staff for inclusion on the ballot. The ballot also carries names of candidates held over from the previous year. These carryover names are referred to as "automatic holdovers" and are decided upon by the Honors Court. Thus, please keep in mind that even though your player is nominated, his name WILL NOT appear on the national ballot if he does not first pass through the DSC.
The ballot of players and coaches is mailed to all dues-paying members of The National Football Foundation for a member vote. The results are compiled and provided to the Honors Court, which determines the final class members, to be used as a reference.
Any candidate not selected to the current year's Hall of Fame class will automatically go through the voting procedures again the following year. There is no need to nominate the candidate again.

* Those players that do not comply with the 50-year rule may still be eligible for consideration by the FBS and Divisional Veterans Committees, which examine unique cases.

http://www.footballfoundation.org/Programs/CollegeFootballHallofFame.aspx


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on May 07, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
I heard that on the radio this afternoon.  I see you guys are as dumbfounded as I was.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: 2Stater on May 07, 2013, 08:16:02 PM
I don't understand their logic. He was one of the best lb's ever, college and pro.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: Jamos on May 07, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
I agree that Thomas was a very good football player but in his private life, he was a scum bag. This man fathered numerous children by different women and was married to none of them. He was constantly in court because of negligent child support, and he made the money to take care of all of them but chose not to. I wonder just how many of these kids are living off of government aid today, if I guessed all of them I would probably be right.

It's too bad his character was so bad and I think this might be the reason he hasn't made it to the HOF yet. I wouldn't vote for him and I'm supporting those that aren't voting for him.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: BAMAWV on May 08, 2013, 01:20:25 AM
I saw Leroy Cook mentioned earlier in this thread. Had he not suffered a knee injury he would have been NFL HOF. Drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. As I recall he never played a down in the NFL. Sad story-- I want to say he woke up the next day with swelling, never knew he was injured. 


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: pmull on May 08, 2013, 08:23:10 AM
I agree that Thomas was a very good football player but in his private life, he was a scum bag. This man fathered numerous children by different women and was married to none of them. He was constantly in court because of negligent child support, and he made the money to take care of all of them but chose not to. I wonder just how many of these kids are living off of government aid today, if I guessed all of them I would probably be right.

It's too bad his character was so bad and I think this might be the reason he hasn't made it to the HOF yet. I wouldn't vote for him and I'm supporting those that aren't voting for him.

There is no excuse for not taking care of your children both emotionally and financially.

However, there was another side to DT. He was liked and respected in the Kansas City community for his volunteer and charity work. He won numerous NFL awards for his off the field work including the 1993 Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award.


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: Jamos on May 08, 2013, 10:15:51 AM
I agree that Thomas was a very good football player but in his private life, he was a scum bag. This man fathered numerous children by different women and was married to none of them. He was constantly in court because of negligent child support, and he made the money to take care of all of them but chose not to. I wonder just how many of these kids are living off of government aid today, if I guessed all of them I would probably be right.

It's too bad his character was so bad and I think this might be the reason he hasn't made it to the HOF yet. I wouldn't vote for him and I'm supporting those that aren't voting for him.

There is no excuse for not taking care of your children both emotionally and financially.

However, there was another side to DT. He was liked and respected in the Kansas City community for his volunteer and charity work. He won numerous NFL awards for his off the field work including the 1993 Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award.

He had plenty of time time for others but not his own??  >:( I just don't have any respect at all for dead beat dads and that includes my own son once, but we got that straightened out. ;)


Title: Re: Derrick Thomas snubbed again...
Post by: ricky023 on May 08, 2013, 12:22:03 PM
I agree about dead beat dads'. I do spend a lot of time praying for them. RTR!