Title: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 14, 2013, 07:49:39 AM The maturation of Johnny Football continues to be a labor-intensive process.
http://rumorsandrants.com/2013/07/exclusive-johnny-manziel-sent-home-from-manning-camp.html Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: pmull on July 14, 2013, 08:20:01 AM I think Johnny Football is in for an epic sophomore slump.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ALTideUp on July 14, 2013, 09:56:24 AM (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQexIKrH6TdNRSzXiUjJVoIiLTwzcjZZ6UoLcfrZ2UXpQjoBErn)
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 14, 2013, 10:27:04 AM I think Johnny Football is in for an epic sophomore slump. Yeah and it starts in the Alabama game. I expect a major thumping from the Tide. :popcorn2: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: McBaman on July 14, 2013, 10:55:00 AM Frankly, I hope he goes out and gets bombed the night before the Bama- aTm game. If he keeps this up, he may not make it through the season without being suspended. Bear suspended Namath. We'll see if Sumlin is up to that.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ricky023 on July 14, 2013, 01:58:51 PM I would be really surprised if Coach Sumlin would sit Manziel. He is to important for them to win games if you ask him. RTR!
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: pmull on July 14, 2013, 03:06:07 PM Johnny
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: cbbama99 on July 14, 2013, 03:10:08 PM I would be really surprised if Coach Sumlin would sit Manziel. He is to important for them to win games if you ask him. RTR! :lol: Yeah, I think there is a little self-importance with this kid. When he doesn't have that all-pro offensive line in front of him this year, we'll find out what he is really made of. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 14, 2013, 04:13:46 PM Manzeil is out of control with himself, something similar to Henderson at Ole Miss. They both think they are bigger than the system. Severe discipline would do each of them a world of good and if something doesn't change, I think they will have some sad memories of their sports careers.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 14, 2013, 06:53:16 PM He may get suspended if he doesn't watch it. He was suspended last summer and there was serious doubt if he would be on the team when fall camp started.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 15, 2013, 06:05:22 AM You could be right on the suspension but I'm like some of the other posters, TAM doesn't want to lose and are riding high these days, who would be brave enough to discipline him. This is where I think the problem lies, he feels he has them obligated to keep him on the team if they are to be successful, which is probably right.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: pmull on July 15, 2013, 08:12:59 AM You could be right on the suspension but I'm like some of the other posters, TAM doesn't want to lose and are riding high these days, who would be brave enough to discipline him. This is where I think the problem lies, he feels he has them obligated to keep him on the team if they are to be successful, which is probably right. If that is the case Sumlin is not the coach I think he is. If team rules don't apply to Manziel and possibly other star players Sumlin will lose the respect of the players. I wonder if Manziel still has the respect of the players after the off seaon he has had. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: pmull on July 15, 2013, 08:36:18 AM I just read where A&M is claiming Manziel left the Manning camp due to severe dehydration. I call BS. He did not show up until the afternoon and never let any one know he was not feeling well. The most dehydrated I have ever been is after a hard night of drinking and partying.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 15, 2013, 09:58:43 AM I just read where A&M is claiming Manziel left the Manning camp due to severe dehydration. I call BS. He did not show up until the afternoon and never let any one know he was not feeling well. The most dehydrated I have ever been is after a hard night of drinking and partying. I had read this earlier and this is what I based my opinion on. He was seen partying in both places, Louisiana and Texas. It reminds me of the Scam Newton case, the Barn didn't care if they got caught as long as they won a National Championship and I think this might be the mindset at TAM, win the NC and worry about the repercussions from the players later. :dunno: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: #1Tidefan on July 15, 2013, 01:41:51 PM I just read where A&M is claiming Manziel left the Manning camp due to severe dehydration. I call BS. He did not show up until the afternoon and never let any one know he was not feeling well. The most dehydrated I have ever been is after a hard night of drinking and partying. I had read this earlier and this is what I based my opinion on. He was seen partying in both places, Louisiana and Texas. It reminds me of the Scam Newton case, the Barn didn't care if they got caught as long as they won a National Championship and I think this might be the mindset at TAM, win the NC and worry about the repercussions from the players later. :dunno: Exactly. The kid apparently can't hold his liquor, and subsequently got hung over, resulting in missed meetings = Archie lettin him go. (Good call Sir) Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2013, 11:35:11 AM Manziel still won't man up and instead tries to play word games. He has the potential to be a politician some day. Read entire link, interesting.
Quote In an interview on SportsCenter, Manziel was asked directly if he was drinking alcohol during his time at the camp, and he answered, “I’m not going into details about what happened at the Manning camp. We had social events every night.” Quote Manziel said he’s not going to apologize for the way he lives his life. :think: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/17/johnny-manziel-wont-say-if-he-was-drinking-at-the-manning-camp/related/ Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ricky023 on July 17, 2013, 01:07:00 PM Well he may not apologize but I would think he has enough of a brain to know he is a Representative for T&AM. RTR!
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 20, 2013, 08:58:37 PM This is the best info I have heard on where Manziel was at and what really happened on his "sleeping too late" & his cell phone was dead, & AJ did not wake him excuse. Read entire link. What a lying sleazeball!
Quote Basically it boils down to this: Manziel apparently lied to his own mother about his reason for missing camp meetings on Saturday morning, misled the media on SEC Media Day and threw Alabama quarterback A.J. McCarron under the bus by forcing him to answer questions about why he didn’t wake Manziel up on Saturday morning. What McCarron had to avoid saying was the truth: he couldn’t wake Manziel up, because Manziel wasn’t in their room. No one knows for sure where Manziel slept on Friday night, and the exact location is probably none of our da#@ business. But we do know it wasn’t at a Nicholls State dorm with roomie McCarron. It was reported to Archie Manning that Johnny Football was last seen somewhere on Bourbon Street in New Orleans at around 4 a.m. (The Nicholls campus is about an hour drive from New Orleans). http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/report_johnny_manziel_was_partying_on_bourbon_street_before_getting_kicked_out_of_manning_camp/14095469 :deadhorse: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 22, 2013, 04:31:38 PM Well, all of his antics are starting to slam Manziel.
:think: Quote But the alleged escapades at the Manning camp, and Manziel's performance at the SEC media days last week, piqued the interest of some league personnel people. "I was especially interested in his comments about being just a '20-year-old' kid," said one regional scout who primarily works the SEC schools. "I'm tired of that excuse. If I had (Manziel) in an interview, and (suggested) to him that he was just a kid, he probably wouldn't react well. He's a 20-year-old man, he'd (protest). Well, he needs to start acting like one."] http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/396154-johnny-manziel-turns-off-at-least-one-nfl-scout?eref=fromSI Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 22, 2013, 08:00:35 PM As I stated earlier, when you tell a lie to cover for another lie, there's trouble ahead. :-\
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on July 23, 2013, 10:09:25 AM Asking him whether or not he had alcohol during his time at camp isn't really a fair question (if you're going to indicted him for a simple yes). There was a photo of Eli, Peyton, and AJ out drinking one of those nights as well...it definitely wasn't Eli's first one judging by his face.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 23, 2013, 10:40:04 AM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana?
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 23, 2013, 01:02:17 PM Asking him whether or not he had alcohol during his time at camp isn't really a fair question (if you're going to indicted him for a simple yes). There was a photo of Eli, Peyton, and AJ out drinking one of those nights as well...it definitely wasn't Eli's first one judging by his face. The drinking age is 21, which Eli surpasses. Plus, he's not a 20 year old trying to improve as a QB & make it to the NFL. :D Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Catch Prothro on July 23, 2013, 01:10:33 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on July 23, 2013, 04:19:58 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.We also seem to be guilty of holding some people to higher standards than we did ourselves when we were in college, our kids, or non-athletes in general. I'm not condoning his actions, particularly if he lied about what he was actually doing, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus for having a few beers just because he's shy of legal drinking age by a couple months. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 23, 2013, 04:39:11 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.We also seem to be guilty of holding some people to higher standards than we did ourselves when we were in college, our kids, or non-athletes in general. I'm not condoning his actions, particularly if he lied about what he was actually doing, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus for having a few beers just because he's shy of legal drinking age by a couple months. I hear this excuse all the time. I guess I was weirdo. I had been in the Army FOUR years before I had a drink at the age of 22, even though soldiers could drink at age 18. In fact, the Army posts had their own liquor stores. Underage drinking is a disaster in many cases, that's why you hear of 19 year olds falling from balconies at Panama City during Spring Break. Condoning or looking the other way is not the answer to the problem. My son just turned 21 and he drank before he was legal, but I never approved of it. :dog: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ricky023 on July 23, 2013, 06:12:41 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.We also seem to be guilty of holding some people to higher standards than we did ourselves when we were in college, our kids, or non-athletes in general. I'm not condoning his actions, particularly if he lied about what he was actually doing, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus for having a few beers just because he's shy of legal drinking age by a couple months. I hear this excuse all the time. I guess I was weirdo. I had been in the Army FOUR years before I had a drink at the age of 22, even though soldiers could drink at age 18. In fact, the Army posts had their own liquor stores. Underage drinking is a disaster in many cases, that's why you hear of 19 year olds falling from balconies at Panama City during Spring Break. Condoning or looking the other way is not the answer to the problem. My son just turned 21 and he drank before he was legal, but I never approved of it. :dog: #+, MD I have to applaud you my friend, because when we went in everyone had to go to PX every evening if they could especially at FT. Jackson, SC. We thought if we are gonna die in Vietnam we might as well be drunk. Although when I got to Ft. Polk and they got us straight on what Charley would do to us, it changed my mind from drinking to sipping sometimes. :worship:, you certainly was a man at 22. Cause we had drugs alcohol because everybody was so scared. :D,,RTR! Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 23, 2013, 06:52:55 PM I don't think anyone is holding him to higher standards, he has done this to himself. He thinks he is much bigger than he is and if he doesn't make some adjustments to himself he will find out the hard way. Handling success isn't easy in many cases and he sure hasn't done a very good job handling his success.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 23, 2013, 07:05:47 PM I don't think anyone is holding him to higher standards, he has done this to himself. He thinks he is much bigger than he is and if he doesn't make some adjustments to himself he will find out the hard way. Handling success isn't easy in many cases and he sure hasn't done a very good job handling his success. EXACTLY!! Right on the money. :clap: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Catch Prothro on July 23, 2013, 08:41:08 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.We also seem to be guilty of holding some people to higher standards than we did ourselves when we were in college, our kids, or non-athletes in general. I'm not condoning his actions, particularly if he lied about what he was actually doing, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus for having a few beers just because he's shy of legal drinking age by a couple months. Really, the knock on Manziel him is maturity, mostly a concern for an NFL franchise considering shelling out the bucks. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 23, 2013, 09:12:34 PM What is the legal age for drinking in Louisiana? 21, like most places these days. Federal funding requires it.We also seem to be guilty of holding some people to higher standards than we did ourselves when we were in college, our kids, or non-athletes in general. I'm not condoning his actions, particularly if he lied about what he was actually doing, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus for having a few beers just because he's shy of legal drinking age by a couple months. Really, the knock on Manziel him is maturity, mostly a concern for an NFL franchise considering shelling out the bucks. One thing a lot of young folks get confused about is being called an "Adult" at the age of 18. That is a legal standard mainly for the purpose of criminal justice and being considered an adult if you commit a crime. When my son turned 18 he thought he would have the full range of rights an adult has. Wrong! I told him being 18 meant he could join the military, buy a rifle or shotgun, or get the electric chair as a convicted criminal. Those were the "benefits" of turning 18. He is 21 and still learning this painful lesson (for him). He tried to rent a car, nope, he tried to buy a new truck, nope, tried to rent a beach condo for a week, nope, and finally he asked me, "Dad, what the heck can I do?" I laughed and had a long talk with him. As always, Dad is there to give him guidance (and money) when needed. :-* Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 27, 2013, 06:48:46 PM This kid is either seriously stupid or drunk.
Quote One place in the Lone Star State where people definitely have mixed feelings about Manziel, however, is in Austin. The A&M QB has been having an epic weekend at the University of Texas, and the school's students have had mixed reactions to his presence http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/johnny-manziel-heckled-out-of-university-of-texas-fraternity-party-072713 Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: pmull on July 27, 2013, 07:50:09 PM This kid is either seriously stupid or drunk. Quote One place in the Lone Star State where people definitely have mixed feelings about Manziel, however, is in Austin. The A&M QB has been having an epic weekend at the University of Texas, and the school's students have had mixed reactions to his presence http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/johnny-manziel-heckled-out-of-university-of-texas-fraternity-party-072713 His ego is a lot bigger than he is. Winning the Heisman is about like winning the lottery. The problem is JF won it too early in his college career and he is in for an epic fail in his sophomore year. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 28, 2013, 06:13:22 AM How will he handle failure, he's really destroyed the road to success so far? :-\
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 28, 2013, 09:33:00 AM How will he handle failure, he's really destroyed the road to success so far? :-\ Excellent point. If A&M loses 3 games and his stats fall off, how will he handle that? Plus, I get the impression everyone is getting tired of his "act." :dunno: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: rueben on July 28, 2013, 10:08:06 AM Drinking is not thte issue here. Gluttney is. Just as it was stated on a previous page, AJ and others were out with Johnny the night before, and all seemded to ahve a had drinks. Some just handle it beter than others. Just like some can cut a small piece of cake and eat it. Others cut a small piece, and eat the rest of the cake.
Johnny needs some self controll. If he can't handle his liquor, he needs to walk away now. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Catch Prothro on July 28, 2013, 11:47:03 AM "Johnny Manziel tossed from UT frat party"
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/396750-johnny-manziel-tossed-from-ut-frat-party?xid=si_ncaaf Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: 2Stater on July 30, 2013, 01:56:18 PM Stephen Garcia v2, only with talent.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 30, 2013, 02:01:49 PM "Johnny Manziel tossed from UT frat party" http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/396750-johnny-manziel-tossed-from-ut-frat-party?xid=si_ncaaf He sure thinks a lot of himself doesn't he? Imagine what would happen if Cam Newton showed up to party on fraternity row in Tuscaloosa. I can't believe he thought he could waltz into UT and be welcomed just because he is Johnny Football after all. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: BamaBred on July 30, 2013, 07:56:28 PM How will he handle failure, he's really destroyed the road to success so far? :-\ His complete lack of respect for said road is what gets me. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 30, 2013, 08:27:31 PM Incredible article & interview about Manziel. Scary & sad. This kid is really screwed up.
Quote While Nate explains the insanity of their lives, as if on cue another negative story breaks, this one about Johnny almost being suspended for the season last year after his arrest and coming within five days of transferring. Nate reads the news on his phone and looks concerned. "How'd that get out?" he asks. "Less than 50 people know that. That's someone in the school talking." He's suspicious about this story, which credits an unnamed source. Nate thinks Texas A&M is leaking on its star quarterback, and in the end it doesn't even really matter if that is true or not. There's been a growing rift between the school and its most important student. It's not just Nate's paranoia about the story, or Johnny's frustrations with the nonfootball, marketing expectation of the school, or his father's sense of injustice that everyone makes money off his son but his son. The rift is more profound. Many people close to Johnny Manziel no longer believe in the integrity of the institutions charged with protecting him. Lost faith is one more casualty of the fishbowl. Quote They're concerned. Paul thinks Johnny drinks to deal with the stress. After his arrest, Johnny's parents and Sumlin mandated he visit an alcohol counselor; Johnny saw him six or seven weeks during the season. About the only place they still see the real him is on the football field. Mostly what they see is the emotional byproduct of whatever is chewing him up inside. "I don't know where the anger comes from," Paul says. "I don't think he knows. If it comes from his drinking, or if he's mad at himself for not being a better person when he fails, when he fails God and his mom and me. If it makes him angry that he's got demons in him. You can only speculate because you can't go in there." http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9521439/heisman-winner-johnny-manziel-celebrity-derail-texas-aggies-season-espn-magazine :popcorn2: Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Jamos on July 30, 2013, 08:53:39 PM Of all things to use to get rid of anger, alcohol is the worst thing he could possibly use. I just wonder though if he just uses this anger thing as his excuse to drink. The only way he quits the booze is if he really wants to quit. Drinking is a bad habit and habits can be very hard to break for some, if they lack the willpower.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 30, 2013, 10:06:26 PM The kid is spiraling down and about to auger in I'm afraid. Can you imagine the pressure he is under to beat Bama again to prove it wasn't all a fluke? Can you imagine what will happen if aTm does manage to win? If they win, it just pours gas on the fire. If they lose, then his whole little world comes crashing down. Regardless of what happens, I can't imagine a good outcome for him.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: N.AL-Tider on July 31, 2013, 09:30:41 AM Now Mommy and Daddy Manziel are getting into the fray. They need to stop enabling him and bust a paddle across his back-side. (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/live_at_9_with_kevin_scarbinsk_12.html#incart_more_sports)
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: N.AL-Tider on July 31, 2013, 09:35:50 AM And another tidbit. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/30/johnny-manziels-dad-worries-it-could-all-come-unraveled/) I'm afraid this ain't going away any time soon... :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 31, 2013, 10:10:59 AM Now Mommy and Daddy Manziel are getting into the fray. They need to stop enabling him and bust a paddle across his back-side. (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/live_at_9_with_kevin_scarbinsk_12.html#incart_more_sports) I think mommy and daddy are the root of his problems. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ricky023 on July 31, 2013, 10:34:05 AM Now Mommy and Daddy Manziel are getting into the fray. They need to stop enabling him and bust a paddle across his back-side. (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/live_at_9_with_kevin_scarbinsk_12.html#incart_more_sports) I think mommy and daddy are the root of his problems. I agree with NALT. Standing up to eat your meals is a good way to get the right attention out of someone. RTR! Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: cbbama99 on August 01, 2013, 06:45:36 AM Now Mommy and Daddy Manziel are getting into the fray. They need to stop enabling him and bust a paddle across his back-side. (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/live_at_9_with_kevin_scarbinsk_12.html#incart_more_sports) I think mommy and daddy are the root of his problems. Agreed. My guess is that the board of education was not put on the seat of understanding enough in that family. Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: ALTideUp on August 01, 2013, 07:48:19 AM We reap what we sow.
Title: Re: Exclusive: Johnny Manziel sent home from Manning Camp Post by: Marshal Dillon on August 01, 2013, 10:09:47 AM Now Mommy and Daddy Manziel are getting into the fray. They need to stop enabling him and bust a paddle across his back-side. (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/live_at_9_with_kevin_scarbinsk_12.html#incart_more_sports) I think mommy and daddy are the root of his problems. BINGO!! |