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Title: College football Division 4
Post by: N.AL-Tider on July 22, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
Looks like some schools may be thumbing their noses at the NCAA.    Click here. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/22847993/life-to-the-bcs-look-for-division-4-to-revolutionize-college-athletics)


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: pmull on July 22, 2013, 03:11:08 PM
This has a potential to be the best thing for current BCS schools. It also has the potential to get screwed up and ruin the college game. I think it should and will happen eventually. I just hope they think this thing through and do not mess up the college game. I am not interested if it is a minor league to the NFL.


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: ricky023 on July 22, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
I do like the idea but to establish balanced rules you need a body that oversees the rules are done correctly by all. I will say that all this power for voting schools out, if they constant break rules, should remain with coaches and athletic directors. What ya think? RTR!


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 22, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
Something like this is long overdue. The problem has always been pip-squeak Presidents from schools like Yale, Central Michigan, Kent State, Syracuse, etc., demanding that all schools be treated equally, even though the major football schools were carrying the money load for the rest of the NCAA. Basketball is not far behind now with its money-making prowess, mostly in the same conferences.




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We've made it too easy to get into Division I," Bowlsby said Monday at his conference's media days, "and too easy to stay there."

So who needs the MAC -- or Mountain West or any of the non-BCS schools that get table scraps as it is? Certainly not the BCS schools about to formalize what has been a de facto for-profit model driving college athletics.

What we'd been hearing for those months now seems to be heading for reality. There is going to be a further subdivision at the highest level of college football. It last happened in 1978 when FCS (Division I-AA) was created. That relegated 250 or so schools to the non-revenue purgatory that is I-AA.


Can you say Conference USA?

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Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: Jamos on July 22, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
This has a potential to be the best thing for current BCS schools. It also has the potential to get screwed up and ruin the college game. I think it should and will happen eventually. I just hope they think this thing through and do not mess up the college game. I am not interested if it is a minor league to the NFL.

Exactly!!! :clap:


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: cbbama99 on July 23, 2013, 06:39:13 AM
While this has the potential to be great for the big schools (including our beloved Tide), this is going to be the end of the road for some of the smaller schools I like to watch on occasion (which includes South Alabama). Maybe this is the time the SEC should decide to eliminate the Barn and let them go to the Sun Belt.  :lol2:


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: 2Stater on July 23, 2013, 07:05:32 AM
While this has the potential to be great for the big schools (including our beloved Tide), this is going to be the end of the road for some of the smaller schools I like to watch on occasion (which includes South Alabama). Maybe this is the time the SEC should decide to eliminate the Barn and let them go to the Sun Belt.  :lol2:

Now CB, what do you have against the Sun Belt conference?  :lol2:


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: bamaphil on July 23, 2013, 07:41:44 AM
I think what's described in the article is inevitable.  One of two things will likely happen when it does: 

1) College football as we know it comes to an end and Division 4 becomes a semi-pro league.  With little regulation on paying players and scholarships schools like Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Florida, Ohio State, etc. that have tons of money will remain at the top while even in Division 4 the second and third-tier schools will have little hope of competing.  (Auburn has never won anything without cheating, and even being the most penalized school in NCAA history they haven't won much.  How could they compete if there was no cheating?)

2) Division 4 eventually replaces the NCAA and faces the exact same problems.  Fairness will be promoted, lower-tier schools will eventually be let back in, regulations will be needed to keep things relatively competitive, enforcement will be needed, etc.

I'm no fan of the NCAA, but I'm not sure I'm ready to see the BCS schools form their own super league yet. 



Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 23, 2013, 08:00:56 AM
I like how things are working right now, especially 3 out of the last 4 years.  :)


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: Catch Prothro on July 23, 2013, 09:06:09 AM
I would be surprised if this didn't happen.  The schools with the money and facilities only stand to profit from creating another tier, and getting out from under control of the "mid-majors."


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: cbbama99 on July 23, 2013, 06:39:17 PM
While this has the potential to be great for the big schools (including our beloved Tide), this is going to be the end of the road for some of the smaller schools I like to watch on occasion (which includes South Alabama). Maybe this is the time the SEC should decide to eliminate the Barn and let them go to the Sun Belt.  :lol2:

Now CB, what do you have against the Sun Belt conference?  :lol2:

South Alabama could use an extra win every year.  :lol2:


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: 2Stater on July 23, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
While this has the potential to be great for the big schools (including our beloved Tide), this is going to be the end of the road for some of the smaller schools I like to watch on occasion (which includes South Alabama). Maybe this is the time the SEC should decide to eliminate the Barn and let them go to the Sun Belt.  :lol2:

Now CB, what do you have against the Sun Belt conference?  :lol2:

South Alabama could use an extra win every year.  :lol2:

 :clap:


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: Jamos on July 24, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Since reading this thread, I've  noticed that the analysts on the different sports links are giving it a lot of discussion. If I were the NCAA, I would really take notice because the media can start a wildfire in a hurry. ;)


Title: Re: College football Division 4
Post by: 2Stater on July 24, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Since reading this thread, I've  noticed that the analysts on the different sports links are giving it a lot of discussion. If I were the NCAA, I would really take notice because the media can start a wildfire in a hurry. ;)

Things are changing dramatically and rapidly in college football. The NCAA isn't keeping up. In fact, they are apparently falling backwards and are now consistently shooting themselves in the foot. I think all this has gotten Emmert's attention and he doesn't know whether to @#%& or go blind.