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Title: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on May 30, 2011, 09:59:37 PM
This weeks SI cover and story (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/)

SI investigation reveals eight-year pattern of violations under Tressel.

After reading this article I can see why Tressel resigned monday morning before this article was released. He had to. My opinion is the AD and president Gee won't survive.

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Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Marshal Dillon on May 30, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
To me, this is the most damning statement about Tressel:


One of Tressel's duties then was to organize and run the Buckeyes' summer camp. Most of the young players who attended it would never play college football, but a few were top prospects whom Ohio State was recruiting. At the end of camp, attendees bought tickets to a raffle with prizes such as cleats and a jersey. According to his fellow assistant, Tressel rigged the raffle so that the elite prospects won -- a potential violation of NCAA rules. Says the former colleague, who asked not to be identified because he still has ties to the Ohio State community, "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html#ixzz1NthDtYfE


I said in an earlier post he was a hypocrite, but this is beyond the pale. Hell will burn hotter with Tressel.


 >:D


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on May 30, 2011, 10:52:18 PM
"We're very fortunate that we do not have a systemic problem in our program," Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said last December. "This is isolated to these young men and isolated to this particular instance."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html#ixzz1Ntleg4N3

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Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 05:12:44 AM
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That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel's second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players -- 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations on violations.


One former Buckeye, defensive end Robert Rose, whose career ended in 2009, told SI that he had swapped memorabilia for tattoos and that "at least 20 others" on the team had done so as well. SI's investigation also uncovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana and that Tressel had potentially broken NCAA rules when he was a Buckeyes assistant coach in the mid-1980s.










Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: ssmith general on May 31, 2011, 05:15:54 AM
death penalty


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 05:23:44 AM
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Now NCAA investigators and Ohio State are both looking into the use of cars by several current Buckeyes, including Pryor, who, a source close to one of the investigations told SI, might have driven as many as eight cars in his three years in Columbus. (Ohio State declined to make Pryor available for comment.) Former Buckeyes basketball player Mark Titus posted on his blog on May 24 that it was common knowledge among students that football players were driving cars too pricey for their means. "You'd have to be blind to not notice it," he wrote. Former wide receiver Ray Small confirmed last week to The Lantern, the Ohio State student newspaper, that he got a "deal" on a car from a Columbus dealer, but he did not provide the terms.





Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: ssmith general on May 31, 2011, 05:25:44 AM
Systemic

They are making the boogers look like choir boys.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 05:33:19 AM
Systemic

They are making the boogers look like choir boys.
Until the barn investigation gets a crack in their defense, such as the Columbus lawyer showing emails he sent to Tressel.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: ssmith general on May 31, 2011, 05:41:43 AM
Systemic

They are making the boogers look like choir boys.
Until the barn investigation gets a crack in their defense, such as the Columbus lawyer showing emails he sent to Tressel.

I dont think the boogers are smart enough to run something that system wide and get away with it.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 06:00:11 AM
Wonder what happened this weekend to make Tressel finally decide to resign? Here you go:


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Last Friday, SI informed Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch of the new allegations and asked that Tressel be made aware of them. Lynch said the school would have some comment by the end of the day. No comment came, and on Saturday, Lynch told SI to contact Tressel's lawyer, Gene Marsh, for any response from the coach; Lynch also said he could not confirm that Tressel had been apprised of the new allegations. The implication was clear: Ohio State was distancing itself from Tressel. (E-mails from SI to Tressel and to Marsh and multiple phone messages for Marsh went unanswered.)





Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Jamos on May 31, 2011, 06:18:08 AM
 :popcorn:


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on May 31, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
Holy Cow! I don't look at the internet/tv/radio for a couple days and this happens.  :pullhair: :makemyday:


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Bamaphile on May 31, 2011, 07:10:47 AM
"Cochran, who is now retired, still shakes his head over Tressel's contradictions. There was the Christian who lifted kids out of troubled neighborhoods and built a football "family," Cochran says, and there was the coach who claimed to have been kept in the dark after he had assiduously avoided the light. "What bothered me was that the family knows," Cochran says. 'Inside the family everyone knows what's going on.'"

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html#ixzz1NvnKHNuZ

Hmmm.... Let me see.  Where else have I heard so much talk about "the family"?   ???


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Jamos on May 31, 2011, 07:45:12 AM
Yep, we'll see how the "other" family does as the trial of the accused gambling lords is scheduled to begin in June.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2011, 07:47:46 AM
"Cochran, who is now retired, still shakes his head over Tressel's contradictions. There was the Christian who lifted kids out of troubled neighborhoods and built a football "family," Cochran says, and there was the coach who claimed to have been kept in the dark after he had assiduously avoided the light. "What bothered me was that the family knows," Cochran says. 'Inside the family everyone knows what's going on.'"

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html#ixzz1NvnKHNuZ

Hmmm.... Let me see.  Where else have I heard so much talk about "the family"?   ???

As in "All in" the fambly?  :D


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Bamaphile on May 31, 2011, 08:41:40 AM
"Cochran, who is now retired, still shakes his head over Tressel's contradictions. There was the Christian who lifted kids out of troubled neighborhoods and built a football "family," Cochran says, and there was the coach who claimed to have been kept in the dark after he had assiduously avoided the light. "What bothered me was that the family knows," Cochran says. 'Inside the family everyone knows what's going on.'"

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html#ixzz1NvnKHNuZ

Hmmm.... Let me see.  Where else have I heard so much talk about "the family"?   ???

As in "All in" the fambly?  :D

Yep!  Let's hope for the same kind of dysfunction in the "other family" soon!  What is it with this "family" atmosphere that seems to breed corruption?


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2011, 08:50:54 AM
Incest?


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: carl childers on May 31, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
Wow - this article, if the allegations pan out, will be a major body blow to tOSU. I don't care of Tressel "resigned" or not, this will not end well for the scarlet and gray.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9qp_wTVBI1Q/TeTdWmbdTtI/AAAAAAAAA1g/FLbZ2bEyams/s400/OH_CPD.jpg)


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Marshal Dillon on May 31, 2011, 10:21:33 AM
Systemic

They are making the boogers look like choir boys.



Hard to believe, isn't it? This "family" has all the hallmarks of the Gotti & Gambino families. Wow!


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: dpa1paco on May 31, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
Yep, we'll see how the "other" family does as the trial of the accused gambling lords is scheduled to begin in June.

Exactly. You hear folks all the time, mostly barners, saying that the DOJ or FBI couldn't care less about football and NCAA violations. They may not care but this quote from the article shows they take the time to report it if they find it while investigating crimes:

"Tressel's most recent troubles began in December, when the Department of Justice, passing along information it had gathered in a raid while investigating the owner of a Columbus tattoo parlor for drug trafficking, informed Ohio State that at least six current players, including quarterback Terrelle Pryor, had traded team memorabilia for tattoos or cash at the parlor."



Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on May 31, 2011, 10:28:53 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9qp_wTVBI1Q/TeTdWmbdTtI/AAAAAAAAA1g/FLbZ2bEyams/s400/OH_CPD.jpg)


 you deserve an e-cred for that newspaper cover.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9qp_wTVBI1Q/TeTdWmbdTtI/AAAAAAAAA1g/FLbZ2bEyams/s400/OH_CPD.jpg)


 you deserve an e-cred for that newspaper cover.

They showed that earlier on ESPN. I liked the headline.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2011, 04:57:09 PM
(http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/litt110425color.gif)


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: XBAMA on May 31, 2011, 08:23:01 PM
one thing for sure ... this mess is sure making the off season way more tolerable   ;)


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
(http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/litt110425color.gif)
#+ for the pinochio nose.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 08:30:34 PM
one thing for sure ... this mess is sure making the off season way more tolerable   ;)
LOL. Wallowing in the misery of others is a bunch of fun. We oughta take up a collection ($7.35) for them to see if we can get viral.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: XBAMA on May 31, 2011, 08:49:56 PM
7.35 should be more than good ...   ;)

and they need our help ... in their "down" time
we should do it !

plus there are actually companies that make sure the viral happens
and once those companies find out we are doing a "good deed" they
may just donate the service ...
 


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 08:54:31 PM
7.35 should be more than good ...   ;)

and they need our help ... in their "down" time
we should do it !

plus there are actually companies that make sure the viral happens
and once those companies find out we are doing a "good deed" they
may just donate the service ...
 
$ for the coaching search? It has to be a real (perceived) need. $ for pony rides to help cheer them up?


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: XBAMA on May 31, 2011, 09:11:47 PM
raffle off tOSU stuff like maybe some red sweater vest


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2011, 09:20:16 PM
http://www.charactered.net/preview/lessons/honesty-k2.asp

Honesty lessons


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on May 31, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
OSU has an impossible job of coming up with another coach that can win the Big Ten and go to Rose bowl or title game every other year. His winning percentage of .82 is about as well as you can do in college. Coaches succeeding and winning and have established their programs are not leaving. That is more reason to think tOSU has Meyer at the top of their list and will offer him the position before January 2012.

I  think the NCAA investigation will not be finished in August. Some of the allegations may be addressed in August, but looking into players behavior and running down that information will be lengthly. NCAA has no reason to hurry on investigations as long as they get them right.

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Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Marshal Dillon on May 31, 2011, 09:36:05 PM
OSU has an impossible job of coming up with another coach that can win the Big Ten and go to Rose bowl or title game every other year. His winning percentage of .82 is about as well as you can do in college. Coaches succeeding and winning and have established their programs are not leaving. That is more reason to think tOSU has Meyer at the top of their list and will offer him the position before January 2012.

I  think the NCAA investigation will not be finished in August. Some of the allegations may be addressed in August, but looking into players behavior and running down that information will be lengthly. NCAA has no reason to hurry on investigations as long as they get them right.

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I agree, plus now the NCAA is investigating Pryor and his collection of cars. This will not be setled for at least another year, maybe 2.


Title: Re: SI cover story about Tressel
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on May 31, 2011, 10:00:35 PM
http://www.charactered.net/preview/lessons/honesty-k2.asp

Honesty lessons

Need to send congress, senate and the admin copies of that. A copy to California's governor's office. I don't believe they could pass the part when it says meet an honest person.

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