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It is on 635 on DirecTV for all of you other gluttons for punishment.  This is one of the few games remaining where we have a legitimate chance to win.

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Same song, different verse.  We start out by spotting them 6 points and don't even score until we hit a foul shot over 3 minutes into the game.  Losing 8-1 at this point.

We have gone on a little run and now lead 9-8.

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LOL!!    :behave:

Lord, is this an ugly game for both teams. Arky up 15-13 with a little over 7 minutes left. Both teams shooting around 25%.

Bama up at the moment.  It is on Channel 6 in Huntsville.  No need for DTV.

I was coming back here to say the same thing.  I was wondering if anybody would make it to 20 by halftime.  First team to 40 wins.

Direct TV channel 68 in Bham/Anniston area.


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Bama getting mugged down low and refs are calling nothing.

Bama up at the half 26-24

26-24 HALF

STAtS:
FG% Tide 27%  Ark. 27%
Rebounds Tide 24  Ark. 23
3 pointers Tide 2/6  Ark. 0/7

Scoring:
Cooper 13
Releford 7

Portis 18
Kingsley 3


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I saw that too.   :o

Portis has scored 29 of Arky's 35 points, so how come we aren't double/triple teaming him?


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Tide 43  Ark 41  10:13 left in game

Portis with 29 points, rest of team is 3/33 FG's


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Bama was down by 2 with about 3 1/2 minutes left. They are now down by 6. Will we not finish yet again?

Tide 4/16 3 pointers, Ark. 1/13
FG's Tide 21/56  Ark 22/57



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Different game, same story.

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Ark 65  Tide 58 FINAL





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:lol:  Took me a while.

Well we're 9-13 without a single significant win all year. Anyone ready to jump in and defend Grant and his coaching? It gets worse since we play Florida on Saturday. I have to believe that AD Bill Battle is very unhappy with the BB program and the coach. Battle is a highly successful businessman who is used to achievement and success from those around him in his business. Coach Grant makes $1.9 mil a year to fail, this has to grate on Battle. I don't expect Grant to be fired for one reason only, his long term contract. How long will it be before we start hearing boos in Coleman? Never I hope, but fans will just quit going to games instead. I still think we can win 3 more games this year, not much consolation.



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One thing I can say about the game last night is that they played with more intensity. Still can't shoot worth a crap, but they did hustle. Portis was a one man wrecking crew who beat us, down low, on both ends of the court. That's really what beat us. They just can't seem to find a way to finish.

Portis is a freshman who scored 35 points while the rest of the team did almost nothing. We are completely snake-bit.

I don't care for 9-13 at all.  But I still am not giving up on Grant yet.  I want to see what happens next year.

Even if we crater out next year, I don't see how we can fire Grant because of his huge contract. It would still be in the area of $7-7.5 million. Any ideas or comments by any folks out there? The problem with keeping him around is the team will only slip further into a deep abyss, like we had with David Hobbs & Gottfried.


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If I had to put a finger on the one thing that I think has limited the success of the basketball team it would be recruiting. For whatever reason, there has been only one year so far that the majority of that class is still with the team. There have been many reasons for players leaving the team but I think the players that left, excluding Lacy, left because of a discipline issue or they weren't good enough to get playing time and transfered elsewhere.

This has hurt the team tremendously because they basically start with a new team each year. I have to put some of this blame on CAG and coaches if the players that left the team for playing time elsewhere were not good enough to crack the lineup. Even now after five years at Bama, there is not a quality post man on the team which in my opinion is killing the team.

Four of Grant's last seven recruiting classes at Florida were ranked in the top five nationally. At VCU, his 2007 recruiting class was ranked as the fifth-best in the mid-major ranks.

This is what puzzles me about our coach, I have not seen that kind of recruiting at Bama or it could be that the coaches are not coaching up the recruits to a top program level. There is only one player on this team that could start on a top 10 team and that is Releford. That should not be the case at this point in time. I like CAG but I don't like the results that we are seeing from him year to year. Starting over every year is not a winning program unless he can recruit like Calipari at Kentucky and I don't see that happening at Bama.

Next years recruits are supposed to be one of his better groups since coming to Bama so I'm anxious for this year to get over with and get those young men on campus. I will continue to support the team as I always do and I hope CAG can turn this thing around and give us fans something to cheer about. RTR

If the team self-destructs again next year, do you think Battle would fire Grant and take a $7 mil hit on the budget? Would you be supportive of such an expense? Just wondering.

Our 3 commitments for next year are not post/inside players.  If Taylor does not develop we are screwed again. Plus, Taylor is just one guy, we need some depth with at least 3 inside players. Does Grant have more scholarships to offer & is he targeting an inside guy, maybe a JUCO?

 ???

I think we only have 3 seniors leaving.

I agree with Jamos that we've seen an abnormally high amount of turnover during Grant's time at UA.  There could be any number of reasons for that, but the lack of consistency is hurting and development is hurting us. 

We've also seen a number of high-profile recruits come in and fail to meet expectations.  Lacey was never the star that he was expected to be, Pollard failed to contribute much before getting himself into trouble. 

I hope Battle is making efforts to figure what's causing these problems and what can be done to address it. 

We have 9 scholarship players now and lose at least 2 or 3 of them. That would give us 5 scholly's to offer. Surely Grant will fill all the slots and must have something in the works, I hope.



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This starting to remind me of Recruiting. Til we seen it on the floor, I can not say I really believe in it anymore! JHMO. RTR!

I have to trust and support any decision that Judy Bonner and Bill Battle makes on this situation. Also don't forget that Dr. Witt is still involved as well and he is the person responsible for all of the good things that has happened to the athletic department.

Try this link, you can access it. Just click on the players names for information on that athlete

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/alabama

I can't access the site since I am not a subscriber. Can you tell if they have some inside power players they are trying to recruit for this year? Thanks.

I was asking what YOU think. You are a fan & an alumnus and your personal opinion is important. Don't crawfish on us.


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From a business standpoint, that is a lot of money to pay someone to leave and there is no guarantee that his successor would do any better. I can still remember the past years of the football program and it's hiring problems.

From a fans standpoint, change is always the imminent solution. I have no problem with change but I would want to make sure it is the right decision. In Grant's case, I'm not so sure this is the right time for a change due to all of the unforeseen issues that he has experienced with player departures. In looking at the next two years with the recruits he has coming in, there could be some good there. Player development is the key but with the two year time frame should be sufficient time for a fair assessment of can he do the job or not.

This is just my opinion and by no means of what should be done.

Not counting walk ons we have 9 eligible scholarship players this year:

Releford
Randolph
Cooper
Jacobs
Engstrom
Obasohan
Key
Hale
Taylor

Only Releford is a senior. There is rumors Engstrom will not come back for his senior season which would be his fifth.

Without Engstrom we have 7 coming back. We have 2 transfers that will be eligible next year and 3 new incoming freshmen.

Transfers:
Ricky Tarrant
Michael Kessens

Incoming Freshmen:
Justin Coleman
Devin Mitchell
Riley Norris

That gives us 12 without Engstrom and a full 13 with Engstrom. CAG is looking at JUCO inside players hoping to land one more for the late signing period. This is also the chance Engstrom will return. I think we will have 13 players next year.

Our team will look much different next year and I think we all agree that is a good thing. We will have a good balance of inside and outside players.

Without a doubt, we need a big man with some skills to stop the hemorrhaging down low. As many shortcomings that this team has, that seems to be the recurring theme of us losing. To me, that would be top priority for next year.

We add Michael Kessens next year. He is a transfer from Longwood who will be a third year sophomore next year. He will have a year in the program even though he will not play an actual game. He is 6-9 and averaged 13.7 pts and 8.8 rebounds. Hale and Taylor should improve going into their second year and Jacobs will be a senior.

Look at the bio on Kessens:

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/michael_kessens_846500.html

Randolph is not a SR, Releford is.
Why would anybody think Grant will turn the corner now?  He hasn't been able to build his own team anywhere he has been.  Not sure why you guys think next year will be any different.  His offense is just junk.  It doesn't matter who you have playing, if you pass up good shots to take contested difficult shots late in the shot clock, you are never going to be successful on that end of the floor.
Get rid of him tomorrow.  Let him stay at Fla after the game with his friends.  Bite the bullet and bring in new blood!

You are correct about Releford being the lone senior.

I will support the administration if they keep him or let him go. I understand both sides. Personally I hope and think they will give him another year.

Crimson Legend made an excellent point that after 5 years, why should we think there will be different result? I have said several times the only reason to keep Grant another year is due to the huge buyout. My concern is we will be caught on a treadmill to nowhere. For instance, let's say Bama goes 18-13 next year in the regular season, & wins say 2 games in the SEC Tourney. There will be folks saying we have to keep Grant another year since he is showing improvement and turning the program around. Now we are caught on a never-ending merry-go-round with Grant doing just enough to keep his job. It will be Gottfried all over again. I think we have to have a line in the sand that Grant must reach to keep his job if he is the coach next year. First, we must win 19 games in the regular season, win 1 game in the SEC Tourney, AND make the NCAA Tourney and win 1 game. I don't think this would be unreasonable after being the coach for 6 years.


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You will have to take your demands to Bill Battle or Judy Bonner, they are the ones responsible for his paycheck. ;)

Hey SC, thanks for joining the basketball conversation.   #+

No, the taxpayers of Alabama are responsible for his salary. Without the citizens of Alabama there is no University of Alabama.

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I've posted in several of the basketball threads.  I had a pretty long post last week where I essentially came to the same conclusion as most people on this thread, that the lack of depth caused by misses in recruiting is the underlying cause of a lot of the problems:

http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?topic=24636.msg196287#msg196287