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Title: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: KoKoPuf on August 25, 2015, 09:22:43 AM Very few coaches win after 7 years with a school.
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2015/8/24/9136319/sec-2015-alabama-crimson-tide-football-season-preview Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Marshal Dillon on August 25, 2015, 11:08:46 AM YES HE CAN & WILL! :dog: Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Old Tider on August 25, 2015, 11:50:50 AM What about Coach Bryant winning NCs in his 21st and 22nd years at Bama. #+
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: ricky023 on August 25, 2015, 12:01:16 PM I would expect with the talent we have on our team we can win another NC this season and I actually expect CNS to win 2 more NC's. Just my heart feeling I have with season the "Process" that brought so far out of the hole. RTR!
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Marshal Dillon on August 25, 2015, 12:28:28 PM What about Coach Bryant winning NCs in his 21st and 22nd years at Bama. #+ Poor research as usual by the "reporter." He forgot: Joe Paterno Bobby Bowden Bud Wilkinson Barry Switzer Ara Parseghian Frank Leahy General Bob Neyland I'm not going to list more and do the author's work for him. :problem: Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: ricky023 on August 25, 2015, 02:11:06 PM What about Coach Bryant winning NCs in his 21st and 22nd years at Bama. #+ Poor research as usual by the "reporter." He forgot: Joe Paterno Bobby Bowden Bud Wilkinson Barry Switzer Ara Parseghian Frank Leahy I'm not going to list more and do the author's work for him. :problem: #+ an e-cred to you MD for this info. Hey I had forgotten all about those older coaches and as you said there are more. Sometimes I wonder how these writers keep a job. I think CNS has built that dynasty and we were one running game away from winning a NC last year. RTR! Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on August 25, 2015, 04:45:51 PM The author's statement wasn't incorrect.
Quote Relatedly, you might note that since Spurrier won the national title in his seventh season at UF in 1996, only Tom Osborne's half title in 1997 and Bobby Bowden's 1999 title have come to coaches beyond their eighth season at their jobs. Only Mack Brown in 2005, his eighth season, won one after his sixth year at a program. Saban is entering his ninth at Alabama, a place where fans get antsy if the team isn't bringing home national titles with some regularity. Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: roll tide roll on August 25, 2015, 04:51:01 PM Oh, the things that pass for journalism.
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on August 25, 2015, 05:02:15 PM The article wasn't even intended to be critical.
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: ricky023 on August 25, 2015, 06:06:52 PM The article wasn't even intended to be critical. Hey HL, would you explain, it was not meant to be critical? Thanks buddy. RTR! Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on August 26, 2015, 12:39:36 PM The article wasn't even intended to be critical. Hey HL, would you explain, it was not meant to be critical? Thanks buddy. RTR! Well, the overall theme of the article is in the title and subtitle: Title: "SEC 2015: Alabama Is What You Want to See" Subtitle: "How you perceive Alabama in 2015 says as much about you as it does the team." The title is actually fairly clever because it has dual meanings. The one that goes along with the article's theme (your personal perspective will greatly affect what you expect from Alabama this year), and the one that states Alabama is the big show, so to speak, in the SEC and college football. People love to see and talk about Alabama (good or bad). He points out all the reasons why people would not expect Alabama to be great this year - Saban feeling underappreciated and fans unrealistic expections (leading a Spurrier reference about him feeling similar at Florida and how long-term coaches haven't won a lot of championships recently). He points out how the game has changed and the recipe for success isn't exactly the same as what the 2009, 2011, 2012 Alabama teams were built on. The defense has been slipping against modern offenses, etc. But then he flips the coin and talked about how Saban has been changing with the times (retooling the offense with Kiffen, how he'd used tools in the past like the Wildcat), and also points out that Saban's defenses have still been better than almost everyone else and that last years team which many saw as a failure was rated as the 2nd best team and 10th best in the last decade by a well-respected statistical analysis tool. The last two paragraphs say it all (most of us really only know enough about football to judge results): Quote It's strange to say it, but one of the best coaches in the country has become something of a Rorschach test. With Saban, you're going to see what you want to see. It's true of his 2015 team too. Is it a team that can do fine with a retooled offense thanks to nearly everyone back on defense? Or is a great defense that will be let down by an offense without a quarterback or any proven playmaking receivers? You, and I, and everyone else will be hanging on the results of the season to answer those questions. Saban? As always, he's more concerned about the process than the results. It's one of those things that make him the best and all of us just observers. It's a pretty open ended article, but it definitely has positive undertones for Alabama and particularly Saban. Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Marshal Dillon on August 26, 2015, 02:45:53 PM The article wasn't even intended to be critical. I never said the article was negative or critical, just poor research & somewhat silly. :dunno: Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: ricky023 on August 26, 2015, 03:26:55 PM #+, Well HL I have to give ya an e-cred for your explanation. I do however, think that as most writers do give the wrong impressions as for as being an Alabama fan would understand. It seems that writers like to play on the down side of our teams and the first thing that comes to my mind is that they are against us and even when some small part may actually be positive I take the wrong view.
When I look at this article on the breakdown rather than as the fan in me is, I can see where you are right on a lot of your level of thinking. Maybe this could teach me to slow down and try and see what the writer is saying more positive rather than negative. Thanks anyway for taking the time to go over this a little thorough for me. RTR! Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Jamos on August 26, 2015, 04:29:00 PM I like his chances!!
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Chechem on August 27, 2015, 05:38:54 AM Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on August 27, 2015, 09:40:46 AM The article wasn't even intended to be critical. I never said the article was negative or critical, just poor research & somewhat silly. :dunno: It wasn't poorly researched. He was not speaking to the era of football that you think he failed to research, and clearly said as much. From the comments, it seemed that no one actually took the time to read the article and just jumped to conclusions based on the OP's choice of thread title and post. Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: KoKoPuf on August 27, 2015, 05:38:03 PM You are right, Doc. Article is very fair and balanced, he never said it couldn't be done just that it hasn't in a while. I saw it as a positive article.
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: SUPERCOACH on August 28, 2015, 10:38:23 AM (http://images.rapgenius.com/57713aca103c42a90968551e7c2a9c3f.500x225x14.gif)
Title: Re: Can Saban win another Championship? Post by: ricky023 on August 28, 2015, 12:15:00 PM Hey if the man with no name agrees, who in the world am I to disagree? RTR!
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