Title: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: pmull on September 06, 2015, 09:57:59 AM This is awful. Kids should be kicked off team and not allowed to play again. The coach has a lot of explaining to do too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ALTideUp on September 06, 2015, 11:06:50 AM This is outrageous conduct. I can't believe my eyes. This is a case n which I would press assault charges on the kid. Having pads and a helmet on does not suspend the criminal laws.
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 06, 2015, 11:15:50 AM Very disturbing. Bet they get a slap on the wrist, like 4 game suspension. Here's more info:
Quote This appalling video comes from San Antonio, Texas, where you can see a couple safeties from John Jay high school targeting a referee after he made what they perceived to be bad calls. [Also, two of their teammates were ejected right before this play.] The first safety drills the referee from behind, and after he goes down, another player lowers the boom with his helmet. http://thebiglead.com/2015/09/06/high-school-football-players-target-referee-after-bad-calls-blindside-him/ Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Catch Prothro on September 06, 2015, 11:51:33 AM Ridiculous, The whole team should forfeit the rest of the season, those two kids permanently barred from playing. It is the football equivalent of shooting a cop, and should be met with the harshest punishment.
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 06, 2015, 12:53:36 PM Ridiculous, The whole team should forfeit the rest of the season, those two kids permanently barred from playing. It is the football equivalent of shooting a cop, and should be met with the harshest punishment. This sounds about right to me. I would like to hear Carl Childers take on this. I've never heard of this happening... ever. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ricky023 on September 06, 2015, 01:03:35 PM God please don't let that happen to my kids or grand kids, I would tear their rear ends up and they would play football again. Plus, they would eat their meals standing up for a week. Then I would make them go to that man every day for one week at least and apologize till they were sick of it! That is sorry coaching if he doesn't do something about that. I would like to see a follow up if we can. RTR!
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 06, 2015, 01:14:31 PM These kids didn't just wake up on game day and decide it was OK to act like this. Their behavior is the result of a lifetime of selfish choices. To me that indicates they have not had the proper adult supervision up until this point, so I have very little hope that they will be held accountable in a manner that is appropriate. It is quite possible that the "adults" involved with these kids are making excuses and trying to justify it by saying the ref got the call wrong.
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ALTideUp on September 06, 2015, 01:19:05 PM These kids didn't just wake up on game day and decide it was OK to act like this. Their behavior is the result of a lifetime of selfish choices. To me that indicates they have not had the proper adult supervision up until this point, so I have very little hope that they will be held accountable in a manner that is appropriate. It is quite possible that the "adults" involved with these kids are making excuses and trying to justify it by saying the ref got the call wrong. I might add that this does not happen on a team who coach send the proper message about sportsmanship. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 06, 2015, 02:27:10 PM These kids didn't just wake up on game day and decide it was OK to act like this. Their behavior is the result of a lifetime of selfish choices. To me that indicates they have not had the proper adult supervision up until this point, so I have very little hope that they will be held accountable in a manner that is appropriate. It is quite possible that the "adults" involved with these kids are making excuses and trying to justify it by saying the ref got the call wrong. I might add that this does not happen on a team who coach send the proper message about sportsmanship. BINGO!!! That's your core problem here. :clap: Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 06, 2015, 03:11:35 PM These kids didn't just wake up on game day and decide it was OK to act like this. Their behavior is the result of a lifetime of selfish choices. To me that indicates they have not had the proper adult supervision up until this point, so I have very little hope that they will be held accountable in a manner that is appropriate. It is quite possible that the "adults" involved with these kids are making excuses and trying to justify it by saying the ref got the call wrong. I might add that this does not happen on a team who coach send the proper message about sportsmanship. BINGO!!! That's your core problem here. :clap: And the school hires the coach. And the parents, at the very least, tolerate that decision. This reflects badly on the entire community IMO. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Chechem on September 06, 2015, 05:32:34 PM Pretty simple actually. This was an assault and battery with intent to injure.
Put them in jail, as well as any coach involved. >:( Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 06, 2015, 06:27:03 PM Pretty simple actually. This was an assault and battery with intent to injure. Put them in jail, as well as any coach involved. >:( (http://www.oocities.org/princessdiisdead/hang1.jpg) :cat: :o Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: N.AL-Tider on September 06, 2015, 09:44:13 PM I was shocked when I saw that video. Regardless of what preceeded that I have a difficult time accepting the supposition that a coach had anything to do with that. I personally feel that the Texas high school board should expelled those two permanently. The district attorney should investigate this fully and charge anyone and everyone involved as adults with the most severe crimes they can justify...
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Chechem on September 07, 2015, 05:59:25 AM I was shocked when I saw that video. Regardless of what preceeded that I have a difficult time accepting the supposition that a coach had anything to do with that. I personally feel that the Texas high school board should expelled those two permanently. The district attorney should investigate this fully and charge anyone and everyone involved as adults with the most severe crimes they can justify... ... attempted murder? AGGRAVATED BATTERY? :dunno: Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: pmull on September 07, 2015, 09:09:48 AM The players were ejected from the game. They are suspended from the team pending an investigation into the incident. The issue will be addressed Tuesday morning.
The disturbing comment in the written statement below is that the school spokesman says "it does not appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee". What video replay is he watching? Quote NISD spokesman Pascual Gonzales issued this written statement on Sunday: This incident is extremely disturbing, not the sportsman like behavior we teach students at Northside ISD. We are cooperating with the UIL investigation. We will handle this incident on Tuesday morning and schedule a due process hearing which will include formal interviews with coaching staffing , the students themselves and other athletes, anyone who has knowledge of whatever was seen. The bottom line is, Northside will not tolerate this type of behavior. It does appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee, but we have not confirmed it. http://www.wfaa.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/09/06/ref-targeted-players-high-school-game/71810384/ Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: N.AL-Tider on September 07, 2015, 12:11:10 PM The players were ejected from the game. They are suspended from the team pending an investigation into the incident. The issue will be addressed Tuesday morning. reread the part that you made bold. It clearly says that it did appear to be intentional...The disturbing comment in the written statement below is that the school spokesman says "it does not appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee". What video replay is he watching? Quote NISD spokesman Pascual Gonzales issued this written statement on Sunday: This incident is extremely disturbing, not the sportsman like behavior we teach students at Northside ISD. We are cooperating with the UIL investigation. We will handle this incident on Tuesday morning and schedule a due process hearing which will include formal interviews with coaching staffing , the students themselves and other athletes, anyone who has knowledge of whatever was seen. The bottom line is, Northside will not tolerate this type of behavior. It does appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee, but we have not confirmed it. http://www.wfaa.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/09/06/ref-targeted-players-high-school-game/71810384/ Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: pmull on September 07, 2015, 12:33:20 PM The players were ejected from the game. They are suspended from the team pending an investigation into the incident. The issue will be addressed Tuesday morning. reread the part that you made bold. It clearly says that it did appear to be intentional...The disturbing comment in the written statement below is that the school spokesman says "it does not appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee". What video replay is he watching? Quote NISD spokesman Pascual Gonzales issued this written statement on Sunday: This incident is extremely disturbing, not the sportsman like behavior we teach students at Northside ISD. We are cooperating with the UIL investigation. We will handle this incident on Tuesday morning and schedule a due process hearing which will include formal interviews with coaching staffing , the students themselves and other athletes, anyone who has knowledge of whatever was seen. The bottom line is, Northside will not tolerate this type of behavior. It does appear the athletes intentionally tackled the referee, but we have not confirmed it. http://www.wfaa.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/09/06/ref-targeted-players-high-school-game/71810384/ Oops, my bad. That makes me feel a little better. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: carl childers on September 09, 2015, 07:54:11 PM Was I shocked to see this? Yes. Am I surprised? No. In the years I have been officiating, player conduct and coach conduct have been on the decline. I have never been in a situation where I felt threatened on the field, but I felt something like this would eventually happen. Along with the school district, the Texas athletics association and the National Association of Sports Officials are investigating. I doubt seriously you will ever see these two suit up again. I know I would press charges. This is clearly assault.
The investigation has surfaced that one of the assistants created this monster. I would expect him to be fired, charged along with the players, and possibly even having his teaching certificate pulled. The higher ups are not going to let this slide - it would send a chilling message and create a message that it is OK to do this. I am fully confident since the NASO is involved (the national association of all sports officials), the hammer is going to drop. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ricky023 on September 09, 2015, 08:31:26 PM Was I shocked to see this? Yes. Am I surprised? No. In the years I have been officiating, player conduct and coach conduct have been on the decline. I have never been in a situation where I felt threatened on the field, but I felt something like this would eventually happen. Along with the school district, the Texas athletics association and the National Association of Sports Officials are investigating. I doubt seriously you will ever see these two suit up again. I know I would press charges. This is clearly assault. The investigation has surfaced that one of the assistants created this monster. I would expect him to be fired, charged along with the players, and possibly even having his teaching certificate pulled. The higher ups are not going to let this slide - it would send a chilling message and create a message that it is OK to do this. I am fully confident since the NASO is involved (the national association of all sports officials), the hammer is going to drop. Hey Carl, good to see you back again. I did not know you officiated games but my compliments to you. I know when I played Refs could change a game quickly. We played Lineville High School over in Clay County back in 1971 I think it was and we scored on the same play 5 times and they called it back every time. Our coach Harlan Robinson was on the field in our huddle challenging us to score on the same play every time. When I see honest Refs you will see a great game. You guys do a very hard but exceptional job. RTR! Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: 2Stater on September 10, 2015, 11:38:31 AM Was I shocked to see this? Yes. Am I surprised? No. In the years I have been officiating, player conduct and coach conduct have been on the decline. I have never been in a situation where I felt threatened on the field, but I felt something like this would eventually happen. Along with the school district, the Texas athletics association and the National Association of Sports Officials are investigating. I doubt seriously you will ever see these two suit up again. I know I would press charges. This is clearly assault. The investigation has surfaced that one of the assistants created this monster. I would expect him to be fired, charged along with the players, and possibly even having his teaching certificate pulled. The higher ups are not going to let this slide - it would send a chilling message and create a message that it is OK to do this. I am fully confident since the NASO is involved (the national association of all sports officials), the hammer is going to drop. Appreciate the input, Carl. I think that pretty much sums up what most of us think. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Jamos on September 10, 2015, 08:35:46 PM What a sick world that we are living in today. :(
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Chechem on September 11, 2015, 05:49:05 AM What a sick world that :) Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Merk on September 11, 2015, 02:43:02 PM Since this happened close to where we live, our local media have been all over it. The latest reported is that the two offending players have been expelled and sent to the 'alternative' school for their district. They both reported to this school today.
Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ricky023 on September 11, 2015, 03:30:23 PM Since this happened close to where we live, our local media have been all over it. The latest reported is that the two offending players have been expelled and sent to the 'alternative' school for their district. They both reported to this school today. That is good to know. They deserve all the punishment they get. RTR! Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 11, 2015, 03:46:58 PM Since this happened close to where we live, our local media have been all over it. The latest reported is that the two offending players have been expelled and sent to the 'alternative' school for their district. They both reported to this school today. But can they still play football? ??? Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Merk on September 11, 2015, 04:37:00 PM Since this happened close to where we live, our local media have been all over it. The latest reported is that the two offending players have been expelled and sent to the 'alternative' school for their district. They both reported to this school today. But can they still play football? ??? No. They were both dismissed from their football team. There are no sports programs at their NEW school Word is that referee may file criminal charges against the two. Will keep ya'll apprised on any developments on this. Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: Jamos on September 11, 2015, 09:40:27 PM Since this happened close to where we live, our local media have been all over it. The latest reported is that the two offending players have been expelled and sent to the 'alternative' school for their district. They both reported to this school today. But can they still play football? ??? No. They were both dismissed from their football team. There are no sports programs at their NEW school Word is that referee may file criminal charges against the two. Will keep ya'll apprised on any developments on this. Good for him. #+ Title: Re: San Antonio Texas high school football players target ref Post by: ricky023 on September 11, 2015, 10:41:54 PM Thank you Merk for all the info and research. Yes please do keep us apprised. RTR!
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