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Title: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: bama87 on September 01, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
Dave Hart has been rumored to have been offered the Viles AD job




http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/9/1/2398294/a-few-news-outlets-in-tennessee-have-tweeted-that-alabamas-executive


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: pmull on September 01, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
I hope he stays.

Heres another link:
http://www.mrsec.com/2011/09/reports-ut-offers-bamas-hart-ad-job/


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
I hope he stays.

Heres another link:
http://www.mrsec.com/2011/09/reports-ut-offers-bamas-hart-ad-job/

Yes., It blow up on twitter about an hour ago.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
So we lose the guy taking care of business in the AD's office and are now stuck with Mal again. Great.   :eyeroll:


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 01, 2011, 01:49:21 PM
So we lose the guy taking care of business in the AD's office and are now stuck with Mal again. Great.   :eyeroll:

That certainly is the popular rumor, that Hart takes care of the day-to-day decision making and Mal has stayed out mostly as a fundraiser and the "face of the program" (though that's really probably Saban).


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: pmull on September 01, 2011, 01:58:32 PM
So we lose the guy taking care of business in the AD's office and are now stuck with Mal again. Great.   :eyeroll:

That certainly is the popular rumor, that Hart takes care of the day-to-day decision making and Mal has stayed out mostly as a fundraiser and the "face of the program" (though that's really probably Saban).

Its not a rumor. This article calls him the chief operating officer for UA athletics.

http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/02/dave_hart_now_officially_chief.html


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: pmull on September 01, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
So we lose the guy taking care of business in the AD's office and are now stuck with Mal again. Great.   :eyeroll:

I'm not so sure he will go. Mal is 71 years old. Hart went to school at Bama and has ties to the area. The Tenn program is in bad shape. They have new coaches in the 3 main men's programs and the jury is still out if any of them will last. Unless he is unhappy I think we have a good chance of him staying.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 01, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Hart made $342k last year.  Considering Mal is making $425k, I'm guessing Hart already makes more than the average AD.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 02:30:30 PM
So we lose the guy taking care of business in the AD's office and are now stuck with Mal again. Great.   :eyeroll:

I'm not so sure he will go. Mal is 71 years old. Hart went to school at Bama and has ties to the area. The Tenn program is in bad shape. They have new coaches in the 3 main men's programs and the jury is still out if any of them will last. Unless he is unhappy I think we have a good chance of him staying.



Hart is no spring chicken. He's 61 or 62, and he sees that Bryant, Jr. is going to keep Mal around unitl he's older than Paterno. Tennessee will definitely be able to pay him $400 K or more to get him. If not for Hart and Saban, I hate to think what the AD area would look like with Mal running everything. I think Hart got Coach Grant for the BB program and the baseball coach, too.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: pmull on September 01, 2011, 02:49:05 PM
Bama will have to give him a raise to keep him. I don't see that being a problem. He is either happy where he is or ready for a new challenge.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1259301

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TUSCALOOSA | The University of Alabama confirmed Thursday that Executive Athletics Director Dave Hart has had discussions with the University of Tennessee about its vacant athletic director position.

"Mr. Hart has had conversations with officials at the University of Tennessee. However, no decisions have been made, and no time frame exists for making a decision," UA said in a statement.



Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/alabama_executive_ad_dave_hart.html

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Alabama executive AD Dave Hart Jr. has talked to Tennessee about AD position

USCALOOSA, Alabama - Dave Hart Jr. has talked to Tennessee about becoming the school's athletics director, but this is all that Alabama's executive director of athletics wants to acknowledge for now.

A two-sentence statement has been released by Alabama.

"Mr. Hart has had conversations with officials at the University of Tennessee. However, no decisions have been made, and no timeframe exists for making a decision."

Hart, a 1971 Alabama graduate, has served in the No. 2 position of Alabama's athletic department since August 2008. Since February 2009, he has been recognized as the chief operating officer. As the top assistant to athletics director Mal Moore, Hart has managed the department's day-to-day operations.



Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: bamalum67 on September 01, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
Give this man what he needs to be satisfied..He's got crimson blood..how the heck could he defect to the hated orange nation?  We desperately need this guy..or one of equal aptitude and performance. Too much to lose at this point. CNS can't do it all.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 06:45:52 PM
Give this man what he needs to be satisfied..He's got crimson blood..how the heck could he defect to the hated orange nation?  We desperately need this guy..or one of equal aptitude and performance. Too much to lose at this point. CNS can't do it all.

+50 bamalum67


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 01, 2011, 07:28:33 PM
Give this man what he needs to be satisfied..He's got crimson blood..how the heck could he defect to the hated orange nation?  We desperately need this guy..or one of equal aptitude and performance. Too much to lose at this point. CNS can't do it all.

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Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 09:12:27 PM
Give this man what he needs to be satisfied..He's got crimson blood..how the heck could he defect to the hated orange nation?  We desperately need this guy..or one of equal aptitude and performance. Too much to lose at this point. CNS can't do it all.


He wants to be the AD and I don't blame him. He's doing all the real work. He doesn't want to be te AD-in waiting.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 09:28:55 PM
He hasn't left yet. I think Alabama will pay him to stay. I am sure CMM knows this.The Viles tried to hire LSU's AD 2 months ago. LSU rewarded that guy and he stayed. I feel that the same thing will happen in Tuscaloosa. There is not reason the school will not try to keep him.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
He hasn't left yet. I think Alabama will pay him to stay. I am sure CMM knows this.The Viles tried to hire LSU's AD 2 months ago. LSU rewarded that guy and he stayed. I feel that the same thing will happen in Tuscaloosa. There is not reason the school will not try to keep him.


You're still not getting it. He wants to be THE AD, not the CEO of Operations.   :dog:


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 01, 2011, 10:00:15 PM
I would rather be the janitor at UA than THE AD at UT.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Chechem on September 01, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
I would rather be the janitor at UA than THE AD at UT.

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Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
He hasn't left yet. I think Alabama will pay him to stay. I am sure CMM knows this.The Viles tried to hire LSU's AD 2 months ago. LSU rewarded that guy and he stayed. I feel that the same thing will happen in Tuscaloosa. There is not reason the school will not try to keep him.


You're still not getting it. He wants to be THE AD, not the CEO of Operations.   :dog:

I get it man. I said I think Alabama will pay to keep him. Sooner or later CMM will retire. Then he can step in to the AD job. If he leaves, then he will probably come back to be the AD when CMM retires in the next couple of years. There are many associate athletic directors at Bama that all want to be the boss one day. They are bright and intelligent men that do a  great jobalready. It is not like he is the only one that can handle that job. My daughter works with a girl at Regions that is married to an associate athletic director. They fly to ballgames together like the Rose bowl. He is young, but wants to be an athletic director one day. That is true anywhere. They are going to Penn state and to the swamp in October together. No need to worry. Somebody can and will step up when needed.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
I would rather be the janitor at UA than THE AD at UT.


LOL!! :rofl:


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Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 01, 2011, 10:42:31 PM
He hasn't left yet. I think Alabama will pay him to stay. I am sure CMM knows this.The Viles tried to hire LSU's AD 2 months ago. LSU rewarded that guy and he stayed. I feel that the same thing will happen in Tuscaloosa. There is not reason the school will not try to keep him.


You're still not getting it. He wants to be THE AD, not the CEO of Operations.   :dog:

I get it man. I said I think Alabama will pay to keep him. Sooner or later CMM will retire. Then he can step in to the AD job. If he leaves, then he will probably come back to be the AD when CMM retires in the next couple of years. There are many associate athletic directors at Bama that all want to be the boss one day. They are bright and intelligent men that do a  great jobalready. It is not like he is the only one that can handle that job. My daughter works with a girl at Regions that is married to an associate athletic director. They fly to ballgames together like the Rose bowl. He is young, but wants to be an athletic director one day. That is true anywhere. They are going to Penn state and to the swamp in October together. No need to worry. Somebody can and will step up when needed.



YOU'RE STILL NOT GETTING IT. Dave Hart is either 61 or 62 years old. Should he wait until he's 66 to get the job? Mal's not going anyhwhere, soon.

 :o


 :dog:


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 01, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
Hey MD, when people think they are indispensable, then they need to get ready to be replaced. There is always somebody that is younger and more qualified and willing to work for less and do the same job better. (See NFL draft every spring). I don't care if that person thinks they deserve to be boss. Someone will step up and replace them. Always have and always will. It is human nature. It happens all the time when people think they are entitled to something. Sports is full of that.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: rueben on September 02, 2011, 06:59:42 AM
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Hey Dave, we'll win with or without you
                                        Nick Saban


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: BillBrosky on September 02, 2011, 07:30:13 AM
Seems like there was some scuttle and concerns when Bama hired him, something about past problems.  Anyone remember that from the TS days, and what the story was?   ???


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 02, 2011, 07:39:12 AM
Seems like there was some scuttle and concerns when Bama hired him, something about past problems.  Anyone remember that from the TS days, and what the story was?   ???

I do recall that FSU had some compliance issues during his tenure there.  I do not recall the specificicics.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 02, 2011, 07:53:39 AM
Seems like there was some scuttle and concerns when Bama hired him, something about past problems.  Anyone remember that from the TS days, and what the story was?   ???

I do recall that FSU had some compliance issues during his tenure there.  I do not recall the specificicics.

I don’t remember all the details. FSU choose not to renew his contract. He had held that job since 1995 until 2008. There were athletes who had academic issues and other off the field problems. He came to UA in 2008. Then was promoted to his current job in Jan. 2009.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: pmull on September 02, 2011, 08:07:59 AM
Seems like there was some scuttle and concerns when Bama hired him, something about past problems.  Anyone remember that from the TS days, and what the story was?   ???

I do recall that FSU had some compliance issues during his tenure there.  I do not recall the specificicics.

I don’t remember all the details. FSU choose not to renew his contract. He had held that job since 1995 until 2008. There were athletes who had academic issues and other off the field problems. He came to UA in 2008. Then was promoted to his current job in Jan. 2009.

If he wants an AD job it looks like the Tenn job is his to accept. He is in a good situation at Alabama. I'm sure we will come up with the money if that is an issue. He went to school at Bama and has ties to the area. Tenn is not a desirable job right now. All major men's programs have new coaches and struggling. He's got a tough decision to make, it could go either way. I hope he stays.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 02, 2011, 08:12:14 AM
Seems like there was some scuttle and concerns when Bama hired him, something about past problems.  Anyone remember that from the TS days, and what the story was?   ???

I do recall that FSU had some compliance issues during his tenure there.  I do not recall the specificicics.

I don’t remember all the details. FSU choose not to renew his contract. He had held that job since 1995 until 2008. There were athletes who had academic issues and other off the field problems. He came to UA in 2008. Then was promoted to his current job in Jan. 2009.

If he wants an AD job it looks like the Tenn job is his to accept. He is in a good situation at Alabama. I'm sure we will come up with the money if that is an issue. He went to school at Bama and has ties to the area. Tenn is not a desirable job right now. All major men's programs have new coaches and struggling. He's got a tough decision to make, it could go either way. I hope he stays.

Plus whoever Tennesse hires as AD, will have to replace the most successful coach in the history of basketball in serveral years.


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 02, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
Hey MD, when people think they are indispensable, then they need to get ready to be replaced. There is always somebody that is younger and more qualified and willing to work for less and do the same job better. (See NFL draft every spring). I don't care if that person thinks they deserve to be boss. Someone will step up and replace them. Always have and always will. It is human nature. It happens all the time when people think they are entitled to something. Sports is full of that.


 ??? What's that got to do with Hart being 62 and Mal 71 and waiting on Mal to retire?

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: bamalum67 on September 02, 2011, 04:25:29 PM
AD job, and even the asst AD,  at Bama has to be one of great stress..and great rewards...I cannot see a guy who is in all respects the "AD, has ties to the area, is an alum, and all that..simply going to another school for a "Job"..which in all likelihood is not better in any sense of the word, has just as much if not more stress, and pays about the same..hey, when we're talking upper 6 figures, it's all about the same...if this guy has no more gratitude than this, he's just a shopper looking for the best deal. I agree that those who think they are indispensable are on the edge, and should be looking every week for a pink slip.

I don't know a lot about the guy, some say he's the reason we are in good shape compliance-wise..others say he's just another guy.  Whatever, I think thazt if he wants to go to the Viles, let him go and tell him not to let the door hit him in the arse as he leaves.  Then get the best guy we can to fill in...I have complete confidence that CNS will ride herd on the compliance people so that we do not have any problems, such as Textbookgate, etc.

Never let us forget what CNS has brought about at our beloved Capstone..not just a NC, but a strong program that DOES IT RIGHT!


Title: Re: Dave Hart leaving?
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 02, 2011, 04:33:38 PM
AD job, and even the asst AD,  at Bama has to be one of great stress..and great rewards...I cannot see a guy who is in all respects the "AD, has ties to the area, is an alum, and all that..simply going to another school for a "Job"..which in all likelihood is not better in any sense of the word, has just as much if not more stress, and pays about the same..hey, when we're talking upper 6 figures, it's all about the same...if this guy has no more gratitude than this, he's just a shopper looking for the best deal. I agree that those who think they are indispensable are on the edge, and should be looking every week for a pink slip.

I don't know a lot about the guy, some say he's the reason we are in good shape compliance-wise..others say he's just another guy.  Whatever, I think thazt if he wants to go to the Viles, let him go and tell him not to let the door hit him in the arse as he leaves.  Then get the best guy we can to fill in...I have complete confidence that CNS will ride herd on the compliance people so that we do not have any problems, such as Textbookgate, etc.

Never let us forget what CNS has brought about at our beloved Capstone..not just a NC, but a strong program that DOES IT RIGHT!


There's a HUGE difference from being the Boss and being the assistant boss. It's what drives most people to strive harder to move up the ladder. Making say $150,000 a year is a lot for most folks, but making $200,000 is even better.

 :D


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