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Title: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: rueben on September 11, 2011, 09:47:24 PM
  I really thought I understood the basics of football, until this...


(http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/files/2011/09/Auburn_fourth-300x225.jpg)


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 11, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
  I really thought I understood the basics of football, until this...


(http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/files/2011/09/Auburn_fourth-300x225.jpg)

I wonder that myself when I saw it live.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: ssmith general on September 11, 2011, 09:50:55 PM
(http://padma-bali.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Cash-Advance-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: 2Stater on September 11, 2011, 09:58:21 PM
(http://padma-bali.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Cash-Advance-1.jpg)

 #+ Yep!


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Catch Prothro on September 12, 2011, 08:42:15 AM
Must have been the camera angle.  Really, really close though.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Chechem on September 12, 2011, 08:45:45 AM
I think it's not the stick, but the final link on the chain (where it meet the eye-bolt).  That's what I recall.  Somebody look it up.  I've got to start working.  :dunno:   :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 12, 2011, 08:50:08 AM
This was a TD run for BAMFTR. There is another image of this run from the endzone showing ball touching inside of pylon and TR foot has yet to touch out of bounds.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Catch Prothro on September 12, 2011, 08:51:54 AM
This was a TD run for BAMFTR.
Didn't he step out of bounds before the ball crossed the line?


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 12, 2011, 08:57:20 AM
This was a TD run for BAMFTR.
Didn't he step out of bounds before the ball crossed the line?



Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: ricky023 on September 12, 2011, 09:05:29 AM
Well football is known as a game of inches. Sometimes you don't get the call and your mad. Sometimes you get the call and your happy. Sometimes you get the call and you even question the Ref's call. Which one would you rather have? RTR!


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: pmull on September 12, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
I thought it was a bad spot to begin with. Then I saw daylight between the ball and the stick. I think State got screwed. However, you can not let your team be in a position that the ref's judgement call can determine the outcome of the game.

I was also surprised state did not call a time out and get the spot reviewed by the replay offical.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Chechem on September 12, 2011, 09:51:23 AM
Maybe this is the time I've awaited for years.

*** SOAPBOX MOMENT ***

Why not use lasers?  It would be simple to use a laser to pinpoint the tip of the ball across the field, and use a right angle to line up along the sidelines.  A simple system could be in pacle in hours for every stadium.  Heck, I have several laser tools, including squares and levels.  Shoot the laser across the field after the ref puts the ball in pacle, then measure 10 yards (to the millimeter) ahead.  Why not stop this nonsense of a ref's foot (left or right foot?) followed by a chain gang running out?  It's probably the least effective part of football that remains to be modernized.  I really expected MIT or one of the other engineering programs to introduce it 20 years ago.

Sorry.  :-[


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: ricky023 on September 12, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
Maybe this is the time I've awaited for years.

*** SOAPBOX MOMENT ***

Why not use lasers?  It would be simple to use a laser to pinpoint the tip of the ball across the field, and use a right angle to line up along the sidelines.  A simple system could be in pacle in hours for every stadium.  Heck, I have several laser tools, including squares and levels.  Shoot the laser across the field after the ref puts the ball in pacle, then measure 10 yards (to the millimeter) ahead.  Why not stop this nonsense of a ref's foot (left or right foot?) followed by a chain gang running out?  It's probably the least effective part of football that remains to be modernized.  I really expected MIT or one of the other engineering programs to introduce it 20 years ago.

Sorry.  :-[


 #+ he Chechem you got it right that time. Good soapbox,  :lol: RTR!


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Crimson Legend on September 12, 2011, 10:08:26 AM
Laser wont work on fields that aren't flat.  If the ball is spotted on the far hash the laser won't make it.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: ssmith general on September 12, 2011, 10:30:57 AM
Laser wont work on fields that aren't flat.  If the ball is spotted on the far hash the laser won't make it.

They could have the laser elevated a little bit.  I dont think the fall off is more than 1/2 foot or so.  Or they could put them on either side with a slightly up angle.


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Chechem on September 12, 2011, 11:13:29 AM
Laser wont work on fields that aren't flat.  If the ball is spotted on the far hash the laser won't make it.

They could have the laser elevated a little bit.  I dont think the fall off is more than 1/2 foot or so.  Or they could put them on either side with a slightly up angle.

Exactly.  It would be a simple answer, and it would speed the game progress (instead of awaiting the fat guys running out with a tangled chain).

(http://davidb-photography.com/blog/uploads/chain-gang.jpg)


Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 12, 2011, 11:32:18 AM
http://www.mrsec.com/2011/09/let-the-complaints-about-officiating-begin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mrseccom+%28MrSEC.com%29

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Let The Complaints About Officiating Begin.

The first in-conference contest of the SEC season was played Saturday down on The Plains.  Auburn narrowly escaped with a 41-34 victory over Mississippi State.  In a game that close, there were bound to be some close calls.  And is the case with our society these days, those close calls — that would have been forgotten 30 years ago — are now being dissected on the internet.

Get ready for a whole year of complaints about SEC officiating.  Hooray.



Title: Re: Could Someone explain how this was a First down?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 12, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
I thought it was a bad spot to begin with. Then I saw daylight between the ball and the stick. I think State got screwed. However, you can not let your team be in a position that the ref's judgement call can determine the outcome of the game.

I was also surprised state did not call a time out and get the spot reviewed by the replay offical.

^^^THIS^^^