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Title: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
31-19 Half  Tide looks like crap, 12 turnovers & can't hit 3 pointer.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 04:04:19 PM
At the half Tide stats:


FG 6/23 26%
3 Pts 1-6   16.7%
12 turnovers giving Clemson 13 points
The turnovers are the story of the game. Johnson, Jr. leads team with 5 points.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 18, 2016, 04:13:26 PM
Worst 1st half of BB I have seen in a long time. I am not watching right now. Hoping I am a jinx and things will get better.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Tide playing much better but Clemson keeps scoring with 2 3 pointers. 49-33 Clemson.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 04:44:22 PM
Clemson looks so much better prepared & organized and bounce back every time we get on a mini-run.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: ricky023 on December 18, 2016, 04:59:16 PM
Well I hope we have not stepped into another mystery place, It sounds like yall see a team that is going worse this year than last year. I can't see the game of course I am just reading your posts. RTR!


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 18, 2016, 05:02:41 PM
Our team has no leadership. We will struggle to win a conference game if we do not improve.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 18, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
I am ready for Hale to graduate. I am sick of a 6-8 player that will do nothing but stand at the 3 point line. He does not even break a sweat when he plays. The laziest most selfish player I have ever seen.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 05:08:20 PM
Our team has no leadership. We will struggle to win a conference game if we do not improve.



BINGO! The exact thing I was thinking watching the difference between Clemson & Tide. No senior or junior leadership. Nothing from Hale or Taylor and the younger players play in a disjointed manner. We lost the game in the first half when we scored only 19 points and gave Clemson 13 points on turnovers in just the first half. Bad, ugly stuff. 67-54 Clemson FINAL.


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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 05:15:10 PM
I am ready for Hale to graduate. I am sick of a 6-8 player that will do nothing but stand at the 3 point line. He does not even break a sweat when he plays. The laziest most selfish player I have ever seen.



The guy had great skills & abilities but never refined them. A 6'8" guy who could handle the ball, pass, & score but he never really improved.


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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 18, 2016, 05:36:25 PM
I am ready for Hale to graduate. I am sick of a 6-8 player that will do nothing but stand at the 3 point line. He does not even break a sweat when he plays. The laziest most selfish player I have ever seen.



The guy had great skills & abilities but never refined them. A 6'8" guy who could handle the ball, pass, & score but he never really improved.
 

He is soft. He does not play hard. He has had 4 years. Give someone else a chance.





Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: 2Stater on December 18, 2016, 10:37:26 PM
I am ready for Hale to graduate. I am sick of a 6-8 player that will do nothing but stand at the 3 point line. He does not even break a sweat when he plays. The laziest most selfish player I have ever seen.

I was at the game with Jamos. Mrs J and some of their friends. One of the ladies made the comment after the game that "If breathing didn't come naturally, Hale would be dead". Everyone agreed.

Clemson flat out out-hustled and out-shot us today.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 18, 2016, 10:54:11 PM
I am ready for Hale to graduate. I am sick of a 6-8 player that will do nothing but stand at the 3 point line. He does not even break a sweat when he plays. The laziest most selfish player I have ever seen.

I was at the game with Jamos. Mrs J and some of their friends. One of the ladies made the comment after the game that "If breathing didn't come naturally, Hale would be dead". Everyone agreed.

Clemson flat out out-hustled and out-shot us today.



What a great observation. That's my kind of woman, get to the heart of the matter. They should sit Hale and see if that gets him motivated. What have we got to lose?


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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: hscoach on December 19, 2016, 08:59:30 AM
I said this last year and will say it again.  I rarely see Bama players catch the ball and ready to shoot.  It seems they look pass first and then think shot.  If I am wide open and get the ball I am ready to launch the shot when I get it.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: 2Stater on December 19, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
I said this last year and will say it again.  I rarely see Bama players catch the ball and ready to shoot.  It seems they look pass first and then think shot.  If I am wide open and get the ball I am ready to launch the shot when I get it.

J and I were talking about this yesterday. They are afraid of missing the shot. No confidence.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Old Tider on December 19, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Bring back Gottfried!   :dunno:


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: ricky023 on December 19, 2016, 01:03:42 PM
Bring back Gottfried!   :dunno:



I'm all for it. AT least we were winning some then. He just had a couple bad years and we run him off. Everybody else we give 5 or 6 years before we do that. RTR!


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: 2Stater on December 19, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
CAJ is still working with a mix of his own recruits and Grant's recruits. Let's not forget that he has the #2 recruiting class in the nation coming in next year. It's way too early to be writing him off.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 19, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Bring back Gottfried!   :dunno:



I'm all for it. AT least we were winning some then. He just had a couple bad years and we run him off. Everybody else we give 5 or 6 years before we do that. RTR!



He was at Bama over 10 years, never won an SEC Tourney title, recruited well but never developed the players and then they left early, we could not play defense, was 83-82 in conference play, and the last 3 years were not pretty. Plus, he couldn't keep his pants zipped up. Other than all that, he was a good coach.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 19, 2016, 07:25:52 PM
Bring back Gottfried!  Wimp!  :dunno:

FIFY


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Old Tider on December 22, 2016, 12:04:32 PM
Bring back Gottfried!  Wimp!  :dunno:

FIFY

and FIFY

Johnny Dee


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 22, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
CAJ is still working with a mix of his own recruits and Grant's recruits. Let's not forget that he has the #2 recruiting class in the nation coming in next year. It's way too early to be writing him off.



Yeah, way too early to start talking about another coach, even though I think everyone was kidding (I hope). Grant left nothing in his wake except a bunch of undeveloped players and no real energy n the program.



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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 23, 2016, 06:52:39 AM
We need one "go to" guy who is a scorer. We do not have anyone that can break a scoring drought or get the critical basket at the end of the game. No one on the team looks to catch and shoot like a true scorer does. We do not have anyone on the team scoring in double figures

I am happy we played well against Arkansas St but they were a small team we should beat. It will be much more difficult in conference play. Wimp keeps saying CAJ needs to limit the rotation to 7 maybe 8 guys. I agree with that.We have too many players coming in and out of the game that are not contributing.

I was expecting improvement in year two but so far it has been disappointing. I hope we get it turn around in league play.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: ricky023 on December 23, 2016, 07:51:49 AM
Wimp keeps saying CAJ needs to limit the rotation to 7 maybe 8 guys. I agree with that.We have too many players coming in and out of the game that are not contributing.
 



I wonder if he is doing this for experience and to see what group plays best together? RTR!


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 23, 2016, 08:53:27 AM
We need one "go to" guy who is a scorer. We do not have anyone that can break a scoring drought or get the critical basket at the end of the game. No one on the team looks to catch and shoot like a true scorer does. We do not have anyone on the team scoring in double figures

I am happy we played well against Arkansas St but they were a small team we should beat. It will be much more difficult in conference play. Wimp keeps saying CAJ needs to limit the rotation to 7 maybe 8 guys. I agree with that.We have too many players coming in and out of the game that are not contributing.

I was expecting improvement in year two but so far it has been disappointing. I hope we get it turn around in league play.



I think CAJ is still trying to find a line-up that works. Who should be the starters, who's the first guy off the bench? It's still a work-in-progress. The one's who stick out as possible starters to me are: Ingram, Key, Collins, & maybe Hall. Not real sure if Hall is a starting material, though. Taylor has been looking good in a couple of games.


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Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 23, 2016, 03:24:51 PM
We need one "go to" guy who is a scorer. We do not have anyone that can break a scoring drought or get the critical basket at the end of the game. No one on the team looks to catch and shoot like a true scorer does. We do not have anyone on the team scoring in double figures

I am happy we played well against Arkansas St but they were a small team we should beat. It will be much more difficult in conference play. Wimp keeps saying CAJ needs to limit the rotation to 7 maybe 8 guys. I agree with that.We have too many players coming in and out of the game that are not contributing.

I was expecting improvement in year two but so far it has been disappointing. I hope we get it turn around in league play.



I think CAJ is still trying to find a line-up that works
. Who should be the starters, who's the first guy off the bench? It's still a work-in-progress. The one's who stick out as possible starters to me are: Ingram, Key, Collins, & maybe Hall. Not real sure if Hall is a starting material, though. Taylor has been looking good in a couple of games.


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I do not think there is any doubt that is what he is doing. I think you have to play Hall and Taylor. We need the height and rim protection and it will take them both. Norris, Key and King (when healthy) at forwards. Ingram, Collins and Johnson JR at guards. That is an 8 man rotation. That leaves Hale, Bola, Davis and Austin on the bench. Each of those guys are getting playing time and rarely productive.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 23, 2016, 03:47:23 PM
Reasons why Shannon Hale should be benched:

1. He is 6-8 235 but does not play physical.
2. He is lazy.
3. He averages 1.5 rebound a game which is equal to his turnover avg.
4. He has taken 31 3pt shots and only 28 2pt shots. He is 8-31 from 3pt line for .258%.
5. He is a senior and had his chance. We need to develop a young player such as Key.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: 2Stater on December 23, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
Apparently, Bruce Pearl has found a good combination with the Awbren team. They are 10-2 with back-to-back wins over Oklahoma and UConn on the road. I'm hoping they are peaking too early, and we haven't hit our stride yet.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: pmull on December 23, 2016, 04:21:44 PM
Apparently, Bruce Pearl has found a good combination with the Awbren team. They are 10-2 with back-to-back wins over Oklahoma and UConn on the road. I'm hoping they are peaking too early, and we haven't hit our stride yet.

The barn has won some close games against big name teams that are not playing well. They barely beat 3-7 Mercer. Oklahoma is 6-5 and UConn is 4-5.

FWIW the barn SOS is 130 compared to our 65.


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: ricky023 on December 23, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
Apparently, Bruce Pearl has found a good combination with the Awbren team. They are 10-2 with back-to-back wins over Oklahoma and UConn on the road. I'm hoping they are peaking too early, and we haven't hit our stride yet.

The barn has won some close games against big name teams that are not playing well. They barely beat 3-7 Mercer. Oklahoma is 6-5 and UConn is 4-5.

FWIW the barn SOS is 130 compared to our 65.



I don't care about the stats just as long as we beat auburn when we play them. RTR!


Title: Re: Clemson vs Alabama in Basketball On Now Sunday
Post by: 2Stater on December 23, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
Apparently, Bruce Pearl has found a good combination with the Awbren team. They are 10-2 with back-to-back wins over Oklahoma and UConn on the road. I'm hoping they are peaking too early, and we haven't hit our stride yet.

The barn has won some close games against big name teams that are not playing well. They barely beat 3-7 Mercer. Oklahoma is 6-5 and UConn is 4-5.

FWIW the barn SOS is 130 compared to our 65.

Not disputing that at all, but I don't think, at least at this point, that we could beat Ok and UConn at their home courts, consecutively.