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Title: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: WALL-E on January 10, 2017, 02:23:03 AM
Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'
(http://media.al.com/alabamafootball_impact/photo/renfrowjpg-54f0617ee181fc3f.jpg)In the search for why Alabama lost Monday night, one Tide player pointed to the officiating contributing to the Tide's stunning collapse.

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Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: SUPERCOACH on January 10, 2017, 07:10:49 AM
It may even be true, but don't go there.  Read my signature.


Title: Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'
Post by: bama57 on January 10, 2017, 08:28:05 AM
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Tide defensive back Hootie Jones believes the referees contributed to Alabama losing its poise in the title game loss.

"They were getting a lot of calls," Jones said. "We felt like the refs were just against us. I'm not saying we got out of poise on our own. We felt like it was starting to be taken from us."

Jones was quick to point out no matter what the referees did, it was on Alabama to finish the game. But he wasn't the only Alabama player to have questions about the officiating, particularly on two plays that resulted in Clemson touchdowns.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2017/01/alabama_player_on_title_game_l.html#incart_most-commented_alabamafootball_article


Title: Re: Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'
Post by: bama57 on January 10, 2017, 08:32:40 AM
Yes, Clemson ran a ‘pick play’ to beat Alabama. But it was totally legal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/01/10/yes-clemson-ran-a-pick-play-to-beat-alabama-but-it-was-a-legal-play/?utm_term=.86c793ee2c47


Title: Re: Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'
Post by: N.AL-Tider on January 10, 2017, 08:34:44 AM
I wish Hootie hadn't said that.  That sounds like sour grapes on his part.  The better team won last night, plain and simple.


Title: Re: Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'
Post by: 2Stater on January 10, 2017, 08:37:20 AM
No! It was a pick play by rule.


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: SUPERCOACH on January 10, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
Yes, Clemson ran a ‘pick play’ to beat Alabama. But it was totally legal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/01/10/yes-clemson-ran-a-pick-play-to-beat-alabama-but-it-was-a-legal-play/?utm_term=.86c793ee2c47

After watching the play again this morning, I think it was legal.  It seems like the first one was much more egregious.

But we do need some consistency on this.  Notre Dame ran that same play against FSU and it was called a penalty.  If it is a legal play, we need to come up with a better way to defend it.  The defensive end needs to get his hands up and knock it down, and the DBs need to switch off and swap men.

Having said all of that, we are Alabama.  We are not going to whine about the officiating, that is what barners do.


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: 2Stater on January 10, 2017, 08:57:28 AM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation



Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: Chechem on January 10, 2017, 09:42:06 AM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

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Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: 2Stater on January 10, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

Quote
Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.

Clemson did win and I congratulated them, but it still sticks in my craw.  :wall:


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: Chechem on January 10, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

Quote
Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.

Clemson did win and I congratulated them, but it still sticks in my craw.  :wall:

Well, helll yeah.  But we'll wash that craw clean when I get down there.

:toast4:


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: 2Stater on January 10, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

Quote
Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.

Clemson did win and I congratulated them, but it still sticks in my craw.  :wall:

Well, helll yeah.  But we'll wash that craw clean when I get down there.

:toast4:

You are pretty fun to wash a craw with.  :lol2:


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: N.AL-Tider on January 10, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

Quote
Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.

Clemson did win and I congratulated them, but it still sticks in my craw.  :wall:

Well, helll yeah.  But we'll wash that craw clean when I get down there.

:toast4:

You are pretty fun to wash a craw with.  :lol2:
Wow!  You DO NOT want to know what came to my mind at first glance of that post...  :-X


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: 2Stater on January 10, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
Anybody remember this?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/20/7010149/notre-dame-pass-interference-acc-official-explanation

Look, Clemson won.  Okay, congrats to them.

As per your link, this is the pertinent quote:

Quote
Offensive players, on passing plays, are restricted from going downfield and blocking anytime from the snap. If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, then that would be legal, and it's OK, but if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's offensive pass interference.

Clemson did win and I congratulated them, but it still sticks in my craw.  :wall:

Well, helll yeah.  But we'll wash that craw clean when I get down there.

:toast4:

You are pretty fun to wash a craw with.  :lol2:
Wow!  You DO NOT want to know what came to my mind at first glance of that post...  :-X

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Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: McBaman on January 10, 2017, 08:12:40 PM
Meanwhile back on  football....

Refs may have missed a call on the first pic play but that's part of the game.

IMHO we lost because the O couldn't do enough to help out the D.  Jalen needed to pass for 175 yds.  He got 131 and half of that came on the long TD play to OJH.  Another 50 yds of passing spread over 3 - 4 plays could have resulted in 3 - 4 more 1st downs.  Or, the OL could have executed better so that RBs could have picked a 1st down or two.

Three more 3rd down conversins would have enabled Bama to possess the ball for at least another 4:30, maybe a little more.  Even if it didn't result in points scored, it would have kept D Watson and the Bama D on the sideline, and reduced the number of plays the D had to run.

O's weakness was glaringly exposed vs. LSU.  There was time to fix it in the last few games.  Didn't happen.

Roll Tide anyway.  Hold your head high Bama.  We'll be back!!



Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: carl childers on January 11, 2017, 08:09:59 AM
Pick plays are legal when the receiver "rubs" - goes close enough to disrupt the DB. That was blocking - should have been OPI. Having said that, should have never come down to that. Offense didn't play  well enough to win. That play didi not get Bama beat. Clemson was the better team that night.


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: SUPERCOACH on January 11, 2017, 09:55:39 AM
Pick plays are legal when the receiver "rubs" - goes close enough to disrupt the DB. That was blocking - should have been OPI. Having said that, should have never come down to that. Offense didn't play  well enough to win. That play didi not get Bama beat. Clemson was the better team that night.


Thanks for the clarification, I was hoping to hear from you on this.


Title: Re: "Alabama player on title game loss: 'We felt like the refs were just against us'"
Post by: Marshal Dillon on January 11, 2017, 07:26:10 PM
It may even be true, but don't go there.  Read my signature.



Bingo!! No whining, we're Alabama not Auburn.