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Title: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:08:17 PM
Here we go.



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:09:26 PM
Two fouls on Bama in first 30 seconds.




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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:11:52 PM
So in first 1:30 game we have 3 fouls, a shot blocked, and a turnover.



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:14:20 PM
Despite our awful start we only trail 4-2 and we aren't backing down. 4 fouls by UK. 4-4 & Key looks good.




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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
22-17 UK. We're getting killed around basket but UK has 4 players with 2 fouls each.



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
Tide 2/9 on FT's.   



 >:( >:( >:(



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:50:32 PM
Johnson with ANOTHER ugly scoop shot.





Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 12:56:41 PM
Tide 8/23 FG's. 29-19 UK. ANOTHER MISSED FT, NOW 3/11.




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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: pmull on February 11, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
We are getting killed. We would be in this game if we could hit free throws and limit turnovers.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Tide 12 turnovers & 10/31 FG's. Won't mention 3/11 FT's.       :stop: :stop: :stop:     









Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:30:52 PM
On court points: Tide 13, UK 34   



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:38:36 PM

Ingram 3 fouls, Hall 2. Tide 1/10 3 pointers.           :deadhorse:             


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:45:51 PM
3/15 FT's for Tide. Ugly, ugly misses.





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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:53:28 PM
Guards who can't shoot free throws. Amazing.



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 01:59:10 PM
UK shot blocker fouls out, 3 others have 4. 



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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: ricky023 on February 11, 2017, 02:23:23 PM
Gosh sounds like we are awful today like always against the Blue. I don't know why we can't play a little against KY but have never played good against them. RTR!


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 11, 2017, 02:24:23 PM
UK 67  Tide 58


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: pmull on February 11, 2017, 02:42:14 PM
9/26 at the free throw line, 16 turnovers and only 7 bench points. We could have won this game.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: McBaman on February 11, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
9/26 at the free throw line, 16 turnovers and only 7 bench points. We could have won this game.


But we didn't. 


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: SUPERCOACH on February 11, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
We won't be a serious basketball team until we can hit a free throw.  That is insane, especially for the guards.  They should be hitting 80% minimum.  There is no excuse for 9/26 for free throws.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Chechem on February 12, 2017, 04:24:12 AM
We won't be a serious basketball team until we can hit a free throw.  That is insane, especially for the guards.  They should be hitting 80% minimum.  There is no excuse for 9/26 for free throws.

Most fans see this shortcoming as simple laziness.
Free-throw shooting can be practiced without coaching.  Just a matter of priority.  Apparently it isn't a priority for the players, and the coaches aren't encouraging practice of it.
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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: ricky023 on February 12, 2017, 07:59:59 AM
Wow this is almost heart breaking knowing with 80% we could have won this game. It seems like we see the same old problems year after year at Alabama. We have the same shoulda, coulda, and woulda. RTR!


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: pmull on February 12, 2017, 08:09:30 AM
I read an article that said it perfectly. "Free throws are not very important unless you want to win."


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 12, 2017, 11:10:36 AM
Wow this is almost heart breaking knowing with 80% we could have won this game. It seems like we see the same old problems year after year at Alabama. We have the same shoulda, coulda, and woulda. RTR!



Wrong. If we go 19/26 at FT line that's 73%, definitely a doable situation. That's what makes this so frustrating.


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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: McBaman on February 12, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
We won't be a serious basketball team until we can hit a free throw.  That is insane, especially for the guards.  They should be hitting 80% minimum.  There is no excuse for 9/26 for free throws.

Most fans see this shortcoming as simple laziness.
Free-throw shooting can be practiced without coaching.  Just a matter of priority.  Apparently it isn't a priority for the players, and the coaches aren't encouraging practice of it.


Bama's FT shooting has been poor for as long as I can remember. Five years at least. Both the above comments are right on.

Why don't coaches put in a FT drill at the END of practice.  Half the team at each end of the court.  You have to make five FTs in a row before you can leave.  If you miss one, you go to the back of the line and wait to try again. Those players still trying after an hour, have to run laps -- maybe 10 laps -- and then they can leave.  This might encourage players to work on FT shooting on their own time.  It can't hurt!


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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Jamos on February 12, 2017, 11:38:17 AM
Great shooters don't become great shooters just by team practice alone, they spend most of their free time in the gym practicing, practicing, practicing. I doubt we have any on this team that spend much of their free time in the gym. During the pregame shoot around, the players work very hard on their dunk shots and long shots.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 12, 2017, 11:56:09 AM
Great shooters don't become great shooters just by team practice alone, they spend most of their free time in the gym practicing, practicing, practicing. I doubt we have any on this team that spend much of their free time in the gym. During the pregame shoot around, the players work very hard on their dunk shots and long shots.



I've read so many stories about the great players and their workout habits. I think Larry Bird took 100-200 FT's every day, year round even before the NBA. Same with Kobe Bryant. Bird shot 88.6% for his career, Kobe nearly 84% for his career. They made themselves do these things by hard work. It can be done. I don't expect every player to be another Kobe, but how about hitting 70-75% of their FT's. That's very doable. I remember one year under Wimp when the team was horrible at the FT line, the next year they finished 2nd in the SEC for team FT percentage.











Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 12, 2017, 12:01:25 PM
SEC team free throwing shooting percentage:

1. Vandy 77.5%

14. Tide 63.8% (last and it ain't even close to 13th)



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http://www.secsports.com/statistics/mens-basketball/team/free-throws




Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: ricky023 on February 12, 2017, 01:03:40 PM
Why does Coach Johnson not see this if we do and fix it? RTR!


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: McBaman on February 12, 2017, 01:13:57 PM
Great shooters don't become great shooters just by team practice alone, they spend most of their free time in the gym practicing, practicing, practicing. I doubt we have any on this team that spend much of their free time in the gym. During the pregame shoot around, the players work very hard on their dunk shots and long shots.

If the players aren't going to spend time (on their own) working of FTs, then isn't it on the coaches responsibility to structure some routine that requires them to work on it?  If coaches are going to complain about missed FTs, then they ought to take some action to address that defect.




I've read so many stories about the great players and their workout habits. I think Larry Bird took 100-200 FT's every day, year round even before the NBA.. Same with Kobe Bryant. Bird shot 88.6% for his career, Kobe nearly 84% for his career. They made themselves do these things by hard work. It can be done. I don't expect every player to be another Kobe, but how about hitting 70-75% of their FT's. That's very doable. I remember one year under Wimp when the deal was horrible at the FT line, the next year they finished 2nd in the SEC for team FT percentage.












Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: hscoach on February 12, 2017, 01:26:02 PM
If Bama and UK both hit all their free throws then the score would have been 75 all.  The other big factor was the unforced turnovers that led to UK's points.  Has anyone else notice how many time JT turns the ball over when the double team comes.  His team mates don't always help him out.  One of the big differences I see was the pace at which UK players mover the ball around and their off the ball movement.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 12, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
Why does Coach Johnson not see this if we do and fix it? RTR!



No doubt he sees it since EVERYONE else sees it. I think it's a matter of priorities and having limited practice time to do everything. CAJ inherited a program that was a disaster. Lack of talent, poor fundamentals like passing the ball, rebounding, FT shooting, movement on the court, perimeter shooting, court positioning, etc., lack of energy & enthusiasm (Grant was like a dead fish), & so on. CAJ has been working at a feverish pace to sell the program, recruit talent, and improve team performance. Improvements have been seen in rebounding, floor movement, & defense. Perimeter shooting, overall shooting, and FT shooting have been lousy & movement could be better. The Tide is dead last in the SEC in FT shooting, 11th in FG%, and 13th in 3 point shooting. That is a toxic mix and shows we need more shooters in the worst way.


 
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Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: bamaphil on February 12, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
Why does Coach Johnson not see this if we do and fix it? RTR!



No doubt he sees it since EVERYONE else sees it. I think it's a matter of priorities and having limited practice time to do everything. CAJ inherited a program that was a disaster. Lack of talent, poor fundamentals like passing the ball, rebounding, FT shooting, movement on the court, perimeter shooting, court positioning, etc., lack of energy & enthusiasm (Grant was like a dead fish), & so on. CAJ has been working at a feverish pace to sell the program, recruit talent, and improve team performance. Improvements have been seen in rebounding, floor movement, & defense. Perimeter shooting, overall shooting, and FT shooting have been lousy & movement could be better. The Tide is dead last in the SEC in FT shooting, 11th in FG%, and 13th in 3 point shooting. That is a toxic mix and shows we need more shooters in the worst way.


 
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We forget this team has overachieved the last two years. CAJ hasn't had to much work with in terms of elite talent.  Ingram and Key are the two exceptions, but they're still a little raw. With the core of this team coming back and some truly elite players, and scorers at that, coming in next year we should the program leap forward to being able to knock off teams like Kentucky and be dangerous in the tournament. CAJ is doing well. It just takes time to build up depth and correct the problems the previous coach left.


Title: Re: Alabama vs. Kentucky in Basketball Now
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 12, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
Hot off the presses, it's:



THE GOOD

Tide shot 20/37 2 pointers, FG's 54%
Key 8/13  21 points
Ingram 5/7 12 points, 8 rebounds, took no 3 pointers but drove the basket   :clap:
Olaniyan 10 rebounds
Tide shot 56% 2nd half
15,383 attendance


THE BAD

Davis 1/6, 0/4 3 pointers
UK 14 points off turnovers, Tide 8
Johnson 0/5, 0 points
Bench points: UK 16 Tide 7
Turnovers: Tide 16, UK 12


AND THE UGLY

Tide 9/26 FT's, 34.6%
3/14 3 pointers, 21.4%






                              


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