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Title: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Chechem on November 20, 2019, 05:42:41 AM (https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/8561573802173/2019/1/15738322024060/Yellowstone-bison-hunt-generates-controversy-court-battle.jpg)
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/11/18/Yellowstone-bison-hunt-generates-controversy-court-battle/8561573802173/ Members of Indian tribes with treaty-granted rights travel hundreds of miles to Gardiner, Mont., to participate in the hunt. Some tribe members say they don't want to give up a sacred and ceremonial event, but add they find the hunt degrading for humans and the bison. Herds of bison start to migrate, sometimes hundreds at a time, when winter snow buries grass in Yellowstone's mountains. They wander out through a natural bottleneck near the park's north entrance onto U.S. Forest Service land. There, a wall of hunters awaits, including tribal members and others with hunting permits from Montana's Department of Wildlife Fish and Parks. Groups of 50 hunters at a time line up to shoot the bison at close range. Yellowstone's bison do not have a flight instinct when the encounter humans because of the thousands of tourists who come to view them every year, said Nathan Varley, president of the Bear Creek Council, an environmental advocacy group for the area around Yellowstone. "The bison don't trickle out into the forest like elk or deer. They walk right down the roads where the houses are," Yarley said. But when they leave the national park's friendly confines, they run into "a lot of bullets flying and a lot of people and animals [are] in harm's way." ... Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 20, 2019, 07:09:19 AM So the "hunt" is basically an organized mass slaughter? What is the purpose of these hunts? Population control? If so, just load them onto semi trucks and ship them out to farms where they can be raised for meat like cattle?
Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: ricky023 on November 20, 2019, 08:51:39 AM Seems kind of unfair to say to hunt them. If you hunt to me it is for the meat for food. RTR!
Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 20, 2019, 09:40:12 AM Seems kind of unfair to say to hunt them. If you hunt to me it is for the meat for food. RTR! My personal idea of "hunting" is going to look for something (because I don't know where it is) to shoot and kill. Definitely not sitting waiting because I know that at 9:23 a.m. a herd of them will be walking through...Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Chechem on November 21, 2019, 05:28:35 AM Seems kind of unfair to say to hunt them. If you hunt to me it is for the meat for food. RTR! My personal idea of "hunting" is going to look for something (because I don't know where it is) to shoot and kill. Definitely not sitting waiting because I know that at 9:23 a.m. a herd of them will be walking through...It's a cluster frick for sure. Problem is, the wolves are the only predators for bison in YNP (well, cars!). But wolves would rather eat deer, moose, and (mainly) elk. Bison defend themselves in mass, and so they're difficult for wolves to kill. Thus the population climbs each year. Public opinion won't allow the rangers to cull them, so rangers simply turn their heads at this slaughter technique. It solves the problem, but nobody is happy with the method. :( Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Jamos on March 22, 2020, 08:13:09 AM Seems kind of unfair to say to hunt them. If you hunt to me it is for the meat for food. RTR! My personal idea of "hunting" is going to look for something (because I don't know where it is) to shoot and kill. Definitely not sitting waiting because I know that at 9:23 a.m. a herd of them will be walking through...It's a cluster frick for sure. Problem is, the wolves are the only predators for bison in YNP (well, cars!). But wolves would rather eat deer, moose, and (mainly) elk. Bison defend themselves in mass, and so they're difficult for wolves to kill. Thus the population climbs each year. Public opinion won't allow the rangers to cull them, so rangers simply turn their heads at this slaughter technique. It solves the problem, but nobody is happy with the method. :( Makes me think of the Germans and Hitler's mentality toward human beings, put them in a prison and kill them off one by one. Sad. Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: ricky023 on March 22, 2020, 08:29:02 AM It is sad because I bet those old Bison bulls looks really good. I guess if they are food for the tribles is one thing but just for sport seems kind of bad. RTR!
Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Old Tider on March 22, 2020, 01:15:59 PM I can't adjust to calling a buffalo a bison. Or Indian to Native American. Or Eskimo to Inuit.
Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Catch Prothro on March 23, 2020, 06:48:40 AM I can't adjust to calling a buffalo a bison. Or Indian to Native American. Or Eskimo to Inuit. Wait until you learn that some individuals prefer to be addressed as "they." :lol: Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Old Tider on March 23, 2020, 07:35:39 AM I can't adjust to calling a buffalo a bison. Or Indian to Native American. Or Eskimo to Inuit. Wait until you learn that some individuals prefer to be addressed as "they." :lol: :o Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 23, 2020, 08:58:38 AM I can't adjust to calling a buffalo a bison. Or Indian to Native American. Or Eskimo to Inuit. OT, nobody calls buffalo "bison." Instead, Americans typically call bison, "Buffalo." Not sure when or how or why that started but it has stuck pretty good. Bison are native to this continent but buffalo aren't.Bison (https://www.tetonscience.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-18-at-10.48.10-AM.png) Buffalo (https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i3Yp1mXpDIMA/v2/1000x-1.jpg) Between the two, I would rather tangle with a Bison. While both, as Chech said above, defend in mass, the Caped Buffalo will tangle with lions and crocodiles and sometimes actually win the battle. Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: ricky023 on March 23, 2020, 09:53:16 AM The Bison look wiser. The Buffalo looks alot more like a fighter. Boy, with those horns he could tear somebody up. The Buffalo are more placed down under I believe than here in America am I correct? RTR!
Title: Re: Bison hunt near Yellowstone National Park - not a "hunt" at all. Post by: Chechem on March 23, 2020, 10:14:26 AM The Bison look wiser. The Buffalo looks alot more like a fighter. Boy, with those horns he could tear somebody up. The Buffalo are more placed down under I believe than here in America am I correct? RTR! Yes, South Asia (water buffalo) and Africa (Cape buffalo). Australia and other countries imported them. Some fool imported one to Belize, and a friend of mine owned the property adjacent. The buffalo simply walked through barbed wire and electric fences, trampled crops, made of mess of orange groves, and did whatever it pleased! Then someone shot it. :unsure: About 30 times. It's no longer a resident of Belize. |