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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_TGuoLdmk

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/08/lsu-suffers-consequences-of-new-celebration-rule/

There was no taunting on the play by the LSU punter. SEC refs blow another call. I am glad it didn't change the outcome of a close game.

Refs need to throw flags only when there is a foul. Steve Shaw, the head ref for the SEC needs to explain this to his field refs.

WHAT?  If it wasn't taunting, it was showmanship.  Watch the video and you'll see that the punter gets hit in the endzone as a result.  Retaliation for the "taunt"?

it WAS a version of "taunting"..showmanship, etc. IMHO it has no place in college football, and I am glad they called it.  H*ll, if they don't shut this crap down, the players will be swinging form the goal posts, pulling cellphones out and texting, signing their sigs on footballs and tossing them to the crowds!

Gotta nip in the bud, Ange!!

Back in the day, the Viles tossed the ball into the stands after every TD...there were complaints, and that was shut down. 

And tell the truth..would anyone like to see that grandstanding street trash high-stepping into the end zone again?

100% with you on this one. RTR

Thanks, WV..I can have some lucid moment once in awhile!

XOS strikes again ... video is gone

once he did the bennie the jet move and spread his wings it appeared he thought he might be
busted from they way he pull the wings back in suddenly .... sooooo ?  a question ?  
if he would have just "slipped" at the one foot line ? not made it into the E Z ?
no TD scored ... what would the penalty be then ?  
think these guys will put that in their memory bank for future reference ?

Fixed.  Some other Cajun uploaded it.   :clap: :clap:

thanks Chech ...
what I find more interesting is that Florida had them on a 4th and 15  ....    :lol: 

RULE 9, Section 2, Article 1, By-law d. in the NCAA rulebook which states as a "Specifically prohibited act":

Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon himself (or themselves).

Chech, I guess we just see it different. If it wasn't  LSU  and had been called on Bama would you been saying what a correct call it was?

Example if the rule had been in affect during the 2009 season:

And Mt Cody blocked the field goal and he got a dead ball foul for removing his helmet because to refs thought he was drawing attention to himself. Added time to the clock because game can't end on a defensive foul. Marked off 15 yards off against Bama and then Tennessee won the game after kicking a field goal. Then no NC because of a flag like that. I guess it would have been OK?

Yeah, that  is what I thought.

Also remember all the times Mark Ingram scored on a run and then saluted in the endzone. That is a foul now.

I like college football because the players show emotion. It means something to them, it is fun. I'm against taunting other teams, but once you let the camels nose get under the tent, then there you have it.

Should all the emotion be taken out of the college football game because a team of thugs: (Miami and a stupid ass coach like jimmy Johnson)? 

Then it would be like the NFL, just another game.

in the Cody block it was ruled no time on the clock = no plenty on the play ...
The foul for taking a helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul
That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play.
since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play so there is no penalty to mark off


question ...
how will this new rule change this ? or will it ?

Crisp, let me be clear.  I disagree with the rule.  I think rules like this can be counter to the joy of play.

But, as written, I think the LSU player violated the current rule.

Doesn't matter if time expires. If it is a defensive foul, the game can have time put back on clock. Happened to Derrick Thomas in 1985 Kickoff Classic against tOSU. He committed  pass interference, refs replayed the down after regulation had ended.

Also if this rule had been in affect in 1992 one of the greatest plays in Alabama history would have been nulled. "George Teague high stepping into endzone in National Championship game".

I was surprised at the reaction or lack there of on the LSU bench. It was like no one really cared (players or coaches).

Cody's was a DEAD BALL FOUL, after the end of the game. For Derrick Thomas to commit P.I. the  ball would have still been alive, even after 00:00 on the clock.

Also the rule you quoted above is the excessive celebration rule, which is a dead ball foul.

The taunting rule is a live ball foul. Two totally separate rules.

If it happens before the the touchdown, it's taunting, ( Wing for  LSU) and nullifies the TD.

After the touch down, excessive celebration, and the touch down stands.  


Oh and CLM told the refs it was a good call.

And I do not like the rule, but feel the refs have to enforce the rule if its on the books. There are several rules here at the FD I don't care for, but have to enforce.

He was not only taunting in the field of play he was celebrating with the fans at the back of the end zone. I don't like the rule taking points off the board but it needs to be a 15 yard walk off on either the point after or the ensuing kickoff. You have to draw the line on showboating at some point.

I agree. The refs should not be able to pull points off the board for something as subjective.

exactly , and not knowing the rule got lame kiffen a reprimand for violating  the
Southeastern Conference code of ethics .
SEC spokesman Charles Bloom  made it  clear that Cody broke no rule when it happened
then lame got on tv ran his mouth anyway about the no call by the refs and got his 2nd reprimand of the year ...
Slive even threatened lame with suspension if I remember right ...

I'm glad that sack of monkey crap is out at uscw now !  

what Wing did was pretty mild in my book , and a far as penalties go it was  
no where near what I would consider taking a TD away from LSU worthy  
if it would have happened to one of our guys YES I would have been pizzed off really bad
the rule is the rule , but in this case it sucks imho , we just need to careful not to break it .


I still say Wing should have just sat down on the one foot line and told the refs to figure it out    :D
it ain't like LSU wouldn't have punched it in on the next play or two  ...

 :lol:

A rule is a rule is a rule. All coaches have been told the new rule and to educate the players on it.The rule is pretty east to understand, no taunting of any kind.

Should this rule be there today, probably not, but taunting is something that needs to be stopped. It's totally unnecessary get in another players face just because you made a good play, it only leads to bigger and/or worse things to happen during the course of the game.

 #+  Very lucid and well said.  Plus, you need to get to 400 e-creds.

He certainly did taunt on the field and it was what the flag was thrown for. He turned to look back at two Florida defenders, and held his arms out wide, like "What you can't catch me?" It was minor, but he did do it.

This is taunting! 15 yards from the spot of the foul and no ice cream!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am certainly not a fan of LSU and do not post often but if we're doing opinions then I do not think he was bringing excessive attention to himself, I think you gotta let there be some emotion on big plays.

new rule ...

WARNING !
this will get your TD taken off the scoreboard !

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I have read that COACHES were the one's pressing for this rule and infraction/penalty. They are sick of the showboating.




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Well, I am going to be in the minority on this one. I like the new rule.  Obviously the excessive celebration penalty wasn't doing the job. it was "just 15 yards".  Now, players HAVE to act like MEN when they score. I hate the grand standing, stupid dancing, and the taunting. If the loss of points doesn't work as a deterrent, perhaps loss of points, loss of down AND 15 yards will do it. Make the penalty stiff enough and coaches will train these men on how to act on the football field.   :)

As for the Mark Ingram stuff after some of his big plays, I didn't like those either.  I just don't like it.   

Hammer met nail. My thought exactly, rueben. No doubt it was showmanship and a penalty was deserved, but removing points is a little too extreme.

What happens when someone is blocked in the back on a touchdown run, do they not take away the points plus a yardage penalty from the point of the foul. This is a rule just as blocking in the back, there's a price to pay so don't do it.

Excellent point.  Block in the back is a judgement call too sometimes when the block comes from the side.

These players have to realize that it is a rule now and act accordingly, whether it's a good or bad rule, it's a rule.