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Title: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 01, 2011, 03:23:54 PM that a hearing must be held concerning the Clay-Chalkville injunction. They did not give a time of when it will be said but they would have more on the story on their evening news report.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 01, 2011, 04:04:06 PM Fox 6 reporting that the Judge has ruled that Clay-Chalkville will play in the state tournament but some confusion as to the team that will not get to play. Fox 6 is trying to get some better details of the Judges ruling.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 01, 2011, 04:06:41 PM Fox 6 link:
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/15927527/judge-grants-injunction-clay-chalkville-to-play-friday-night Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: cbbama99 on November 01, 2011, 04:17:25 PM Wow. I assume that some school that would not have made the playoffs would have be in had CCHS not played. Now, that team is out again. Granted, such team should have performed better during the year and then they would not have had to worry about getting a pass into the playoffs, but still that has to be an emotional rollercoaster for those kids.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 01, 2011, 04:23:19 PM Seven schools have been practicing and planning since last week to play the wrong team. Those coaches will now get two days to prepare for the biggest game of the year. Clay-Chalkville is the only team that has been practicing for the correct opponent.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 01, 2011, 04:24:11 PM Looks like Gadsden City will not play
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 01, 2011, 07:25:53 PM I talked to one of our players dad at the gym tonight. He had just come from practice. Our team was on the practice field when they were told our opponent changed. The coaches were pissed. We played last Thursday so they scouted the wrong team Friday night and spent all weekend preparing a game plan. They now have two practices to review film and put in a game plan. It's only the most important game of the year.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 01, 2011, 07:52:14 PM I talked to one of our players dad at the gym tonight. He had just come from practice. Our team was on the practice field when they were told our opponent changed. The coaches were pissed. We played last Thursday so they scouted the wrong team Friday night and spent all weekend preparing a game plan. They now have two practices to review film and put in a game plan. It's only the most important game of the year. It seems like they would have to delay the 1st round for a week. This isn't right either. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: 2Stater on November 01, 2011, 07:56:57 PM This saga has had so many twists & turns, I'm surprised ESPN hasn't jumped all over this.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 01, 2011, 07:57:58 PM This saga has had so many twists & turns, I'm surprised ESPN hasn't jumped all over this. They are too busy talking about this year's game of the century. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: 2Stater on November 01, 2011, 08:08:41 PM This saga has had so many twists & turns, I'm surprised ESPN hasn't jumped all over this. They are too busy talking about this year's game of the century. :lol: True. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 01, 2011, 08:14:54 PM This was a strange ruling. I guess the judge thinks she knows more about the AHSAA by-laws than the AHSAA. This sets a dangerous presidence.
I hope hscoach comments on this whole mess. I would be interested in hearing what he thinks. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 01, 2011, 08:29:13 PM This was a strange ruling. I guess the judge thinks she knows more about the AHSAA by-laws than the AHSAA. This sets a dangerous presidence. I hope hscoach comments on this whole mess. I would be interested in hearing what he thinks. Hmmm, I wonder if the Judge went to Clay-Chalkville High School. :-\ Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 01, 2011, 08:50:58 PM This was a strange ruling. I guess the judge thinks she knows more about the AHSAA by-laws than the AHSAA. This sets a dangerous presidence. I hope hscoach comments on this whole mess. I would be interested in hearing what he thinks. Hmmm, I wonder if the Judge went to Clay-Chalkville High School. :-\ An elected Jefferson County judge ruled in favor of a Jefferson County school represented by an attorney for the Jefferson County Board of Education. I guess I should have seen this decision coming. >:( Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 01, 2011, 09:03:24 PM I think it is the right decision. But they do need to delay the first week to make it fair for the other teams.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 01, 2011, 09:30:32 PM I think it's the right decision as well once I knew more about what happened, but maybe this incident will for the school systems and the AHSSA will revamp some of their rules to prevent incidents like this one from happening again. If this player had been a starter and had factored in Clay winning some games I would have thought different because I know some of these coaches do a lot of recruiting in the off season.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 02, 2011, 06:29:35 AM Last evening this story took another twist as Gadsden City High School, who was eliminated from the state playoffs by the Judges ruling yesterday, reported that they have gotten legal help and will try to get a reversal on the ruling made by the Judge yesterday.
This issue has really gone bad as the schools that are affected by all of this have no idea as to who they should prepare for Friday night. Hopefully this will all end today. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 02, 2011, 08:12:19 AM The ruling yesterday by the judge did not clear CCHS of using an ineligible player. An injunction was granted to allow CCHS to play until the case could be reviewed on 11/10. I guess CCHS is innocent until proven guilty. Disregard the fact that the governing association ruled them guilty and they lost the appeal. This injunction has an affect on 25% of the 6A playoffs in week one. This ruling stinks.
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 02, 2011, 08:17:59 AM Gadsden City is fighting back. These are going to be some screwed up playoffs.
Latest on Clay-Chalkville: Motion for injunction filed on behalf of Gadsden City http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/article/1649292538780062648/latest-on-clay-chalkville-motion-for-injunction-filed-on-behalf-of-gadsden-city/ Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 02, 2011, 09:10:49 AM The games have to be delayed. What are they waiting for?
If CCHS is in, then Gadsden just needs to stay out of it. They lost on the field and don't deserve to be in IMO. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 02, 2011, 09:13:17 AM Of course the Gadsden motion was filed in an Etowah county court. I see how this is going to play out... :think:
Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 02, 2011, 09:27:03 AM All of this confusion and counter injunctions, changing playoff teams, is what happens when the courts get involved. Now, we will try to run our high school football by having a know-nothing judge who will make decisions over experienced people with the AHSAA. Earlier I said I was dead set against any court involvement because this was the results you could expect, mass confusion. Are those of you who wanted court involvement happy now?
??? :popcorn2: Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 02, 2011, 12:10:03 PM An Etowah County judge this morning issued a temporary injunction against the AHSAA ruling that Gadsden is eligible for the playoffs and not CCHS. AHSAA is filing a motion with the state supreme court over dueling court orders.
Meanwhile, who does my team prepare to play? http://www.myfoxal.com/story/15935805/ahsaa-to-file-with-state-supreme-court-over-dueling-court-orders Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 02, 2011, 01:19:30 PM Just in case there are not enough judges involved the Decatur School Board, on behalf of Austin High, has filed a lawsuit to keep Austin's first game at home with Vestavia.
I have never seen anything like this. http://www.decaturdaily.com/stories/Decatur-board-sues-to-keep-Austin-at-home-Etowah-County-court-issues-injunction,87152 Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on November 02, 2011, 01:24:34 PM I have been going to the different threads and handing these out. We don't need to peak before Saturday night!
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Funny%20Pictures/ChillPill.jpg) (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Funny%20Pictures/ChillPill.jpg) (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Funny%20Pictures/ChillPill.jpg) (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Funny%20Pictures/ChillPill.jpg) Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 02, 2011, 01:53:11 PM All of this confusion and counter injunctions, changing playoff teams, is what happens when the courts get involved. Now, we will try to run our high school football by having a know-nothing judge who will make decisions over experienced people with the AHSAA. Earlier I said I was dead set against any court involvement because this was the results you could expect, mass confusion. Are those of you who wanted court involvement happy now? ??? :popcorn2: They need to delay the playoffs for a week until they figure it out. If they do that and get the right teams in there, I think that is better than going off all willy nilly and having the playoffs with the wrong teams, or changing opponents 2 days before the game. :dunno: Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Jamos on November 02, 2011, 02:12:14 PM All of this confusion and counter injunctions, changing playoff teams, is what happens when the courts get involved. Now, we will try to run our high school football by having a know-nothing judge who will make decisions over experienced people with the AHSAA. Earlier I said I was dead set against any court involvement because this was the results you could expect, mass confusion. Are those of you who wanted court involvement happy now? ??? :popcorn2: They need to delay the playoffs for a week until they figure it out. If they do that and get the right teams in there, I think that is better than going off all willy nilly and having the playoffs with the wrong teams, or changing opponents 2 days before the game. :dunno: They should have had the hearing today, this is totally senseless when you have the powers to be from different counties throwing their weight around. It really makes me wonder just how prejudiced some of our Judges can be when the problem is in their backyard and they are supposed to be unbiased. You would think the two Judges and the AHSAA could find a sensible resolution to all of this. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 02, 2011, 02:31:45 PM This is crazy. If a decision is made by the state supreme court between now and Friday afternoon we will play Friday. If no decision is made by Friday afternoon only 4 games will be postponed. We have a game this Friday and as of Wednesday afternoon we do not know who we will play or where the game will be played at. I guess we better keep the home and away uniforms clean and the buses gased up.
Quote The Alabama High School Athletics Association will file a writ with the Alabama Supreme Court this afternoon requesting an opinion on a dispute over the state’s 6A football playoffs, the association’s attorney said today. If the state’s highest court doesn’t issue a ruling by Friday afternoon, at least four playoff games will be postponed, said AHSAA attorney Jim Williams. “I don’t think we’d have any other choice,” Williams said. “We have conflicting rulings from two different courts.” http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/16260007/article-State-Supreme-Court-may-rule-in-football-playoff-dispute?instance=news_secondary Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 02, 2011, 02:39:25 PM This is crazy. If a decision is made by the state supreme court between now and Friday afternoon we will play Friday. If no decision is made by Friday afternoon only 4 games will be postponed. We have a game this Friday and as of Wednesday afternoon we do not know who we will play or where the game will be played at. I guess we better keep the home and away uniforms clean and the buses gased up. Quote The Alabama High School Athletics Association will file a writ with the Alabama Supreme Court this afternoon requesting an opinion on a dispute over the state’s 6A football playoffs, the association’s attorney said today. If the state’s highest court doesn’t issue a ruling by Friday afternoon, at least four playoff games will be postponed, said AHSAA attorney Jim Williams. “I don’t think we’d have any other choice,” Williams said. “We have conflicting rulings from two different courts.” http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/16260007/article-State-Supreme-Court-may-rule-in-football-playoff-dispute?instance=news_secondary Has it not occurred to them to delay regardless since the teams don't know who to game plan for? Or at least make a statement to the teams saying to prepare for the original schedule, and if something changes by Friday there will be a one week delay to give you time to prepare for the new opponent. Why are they hellbent on playing the first games this week? It seems obvious that they need to wait until this is settled. CCHS and Gadsden are the only 2 teams who know for sure who to prepare for, because they will either play that team or stay home and be out of the playoffs. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 03, 2011, 03:58:48 PM Still waiting on the ruling to decide if CCHS is in the playoffs or out. The state supreme court is expected to make the decision by the end of the day. Austin is preparing to play Vestavia expecting the CCHS forfeits to be enforced.
It has come out that the CCHS player was expelled from Huffman on December 13, 2010. That makes him ineligible to play AHSAA sports for one year. He enrolled at Restoration Academy which is a school for troubled kids. He withdrew from that school in April 2011. CCHS claims they checked his last school to verify he left there in good standing. He can not be in good standing if he withdrew and failed to complete the school year. CCHS either did a poor job checking the kids background or choose to overlook his problems. I think the AHSAA make the proper ruling when they declared him ineligible and made CCHS forfeit 9 games. I expect the state supreme court to let the AHSAA ruling stand. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on November 03, 2011, 06:09:46 PM http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/11/alabama_supreme_court_rules_in.html
Quote Alabama Supreme Court rules against Clay-Chalkville The Alabama Supreme Court did Thursday what no team in North Alabama could this year. They stopped Clay-Chalkville's promising football season. The Supreme Court rendered a verdict that supported the Alabama High School Athletic Association's interpretation of its rules. Clay-Chalkville is out of the Class 6A playoffs which begin Friday. The Cougars went unbeaten on the field, but now see their official record for the 2011 season fall to 1-9. The decision sets aside three separate injunctions from the circuit courts of Etowah, Jefferson and Morgan Counties. Check back to Al.com for more information and reaction on this developing story. The AHSAA Class 6A playoff bracket returns to its position after Clay-Chalkville's appeal was denied by the AHSAA's Central Board of Control. Mountain Brook will host Gadsden City. Hoover hosts Hewitt-Trussville. Vestavia Hills goes on the road to face Austin. Spain Park travels to face Oxford. Title: Re: Fox 6 News reporting a Judge has ruled... Post by: pmull on November 03, 2011, 06:22:15 PM I think they got it right.
Now, let the playoffs begin. |