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Sounds like he lied to the cops.

My first thought was the police were trying to arrest someone he knew and he said he didn't know where they were or something.

Fibbing to the cops.

A fibbing bust?

Sounds relatively minor (as far as arrests go), but it surely won't make CNS happy with Spring camp coming up.  The details will be interesting to know.  Hopefully, charges will be dropped depending on the amount of actual interference that occurred.

I think he will have bigger problems with CNS than he will the police dept.

Convict 1: What are you guys in for?

Convict 2: Murder

Convict 3: Rape

MB: Fibbing

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Maybe the cop asked, "Do these pants make my butt look big?" And MB was only trying to spare his feelings.

I think you are right Coach , CNS ain't gonna be happy  :-[

you think Mark might lose his starter spot ? for a few games anyway ?

He might, we are pretty deep back there this year.  I wouldn't be surprised if he missed one of the early warm up games.  I guess he has a long time to work his way out of the dog house though before the season starts.

what's up with our guys from down here in South Alabama
seems like every year one or two of them are getting in some sort of trouble  :-[

sorry ya'll , we try to teach them right  :(

Sounds like that's what it is.

Hindering prosecution in the second degree.

(a) A person commits the crime of hindering prosecution in the second degree if with the intent to hinder the apprehension, prosecution, conviction or punishment of another for conduct constituting a Class C felony or a Class A misdemeanor, he renders criminal assistance to such person.

(b) Hindering prosecution in the second degree is a Class A misdemeanor.


For the purposes of Sections 13A-10-43 through 13A-10- 45, a person renders “criminal assistance” to another if he:

(1) Harbors or conceals such person;

(2) Warns such person of impending discovery or apprehension; except that this subdivision does not apply to a warning given in connection with an effort to bring another into compliance with the law;

(3) Provides such person with money, transportation, weapon, disguise or other means of avoiding discovery or apprehension;

(4) Prevents or obstructs, by means of force, deception or intimidation, anyone except a trespasser from performing an act that might aid in the discovery or apprehension of such person; or

(5) Suppresses, by an act of concealment, alteration or destruction, any physical evidence that might aid in the discovery or apprehension of such person.

Some of you guys sound exacly like the Barners, trying to minimize an arrest and making it look foolish or insignificant. Bottom line, being arrested is serious business and means he's doing something he shouldn't be. Do you all find that accepable for Tide athletes?

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It is definitely unacceptable.  I think CNS will make sure he understands that.

I agree - definitely unacceptable. I have no doubt that one of his (Barron's)FIRST thoughts after the arrest were about CNS and what was coming...

Yep, he was probably already dreading making that phone call to explain exactly where he was.

I guess he didn't have any family around to say he wasn't aware of any activities that might or might not have occurred.  

If he hindered the police it was wrong but we really don't know what happened at this point, do we?

This is a black-eye for the program, no matter how relatively insignificant it is. Hopefully this will get taken care of quickly and MB receives the punishment he deserves. I guarantee there ain't nuthin' the cops can do to him that will be worse than what CNS will do.

I watch a lot of "first 48" and hindering prosecution is usually when you go to the interview room and lie and give the cops a run around and make them mad.  Like he said he wasnt there and they have proof he was or something like that, They threaten people with it all the time while interrogating.  That's my guess.

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http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/alabama-football-player-arrested-in-mobile/1205618/Mar-20-2011_4-08-pm/


Admittedly dumb by Barron to cover for his cousin over something that was relatively small, but this was still a crap arrest.  No he shouldn't have lied, but he is hardly the first person to try and cover for a family member even if it goes against his better judgment.

The cop could have easily let it go if he knew the truth.  Sounds like he was more interested in making a point.  Seems senseless on both parts.  I'd bet the charges will be dropped.  Barron's story did not truly divert any police assets, cost time or money, let a guilty party go free, etc.  I'm not excusing the fact that he did something wrong, but was an actual arrest really necessary giving the circumstances and severity of his cousin's incident?  No.

No one wants negative attention for the program in any shape or form.  I am sure MB is no different.  He did something dumb.  He'll take his lumps and be better for it, but the entire incident was clearly avoidable on both Barron's side and the side of the arresting officer who could have easily let it go after learning the truth.

 

Well I guess He will see how much he gets to play. Gosh how silly. RTR!

This is what we call a teachable moment.  CNS will set him straight, I'm sure.

Lordy SUPERCOACH I sure hope so. I don't want to be the next university in the news, I hope you know what I mean. RTR!

Of course what he did was wrong, but there is quite a difference between what he did and breaking into a home to rob someone at gun point.

Yes sir I absolutely agree. I hope our guys are more ready to play football than get in trouble. I think is our year again. RTR!

That's funny ryte thar, I don't care who y'are. (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-020.gif)

posted by: che boludo

Police say after they learned about Lang's involvement, they gave Barron every opportunity to change his story. The arresting officer says he begged Barron to tell the truth, showed him the law about hindering prosecution and explained he would have to arrest him if Barron continued to cover for his cousin. Police say they even got Barron's mother and grandmother to try and convince him. But Barron refused to admit his cousin was driving the car.

The cop could have easily let it go if he knew the truth.  Sounds like he was more interested in making a point.  Seems senseless on both parts.  I'd bet the charges will be dropped.



Sorry, but I can't feel sorry for a jackass who continues to lie to the police. And no, the charges will not be dropped, he had too many chances to save himself and he refused. You can't fix stupid. I would have done the same thing as the police officer. Plus, Saban is going to eat his a** alive over such stupidity.

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Non-event.  It will go away.  Us white people dont understand I think the reprucussions he would have endured with his friends had he outed his cousin. 

Well this is what I am afraid of CNS making him mad and him jumping up and leaving. I sure hope not he is a great player, I wish he had a great Mind in him. RTR!

Isnt it too late to declare for the draft?

Laughing #

Yes Sir. I was just hoping he wouldn't pull something like that. You know how kids are today when they get mad. RTR!

posted by smith general:

Non-event.  It will go away.  Us white people dont understand I think the reprucussions he would have endured with his friends had he outed his cousin.


I say again, it ain't going away. Plus, if he's worried about what his "friends" think, he needs to find some better friends or he's in for a long, hard life. He needs to get beyond the "hood" mentality. I guarantee you, the NFL is watching.

I don't feel sorry for him in the least, but this was a crap arrest giving the entire situation.  But, yes, I will be surprised if the charge isn't dropped.

Cops have a common sense switch.  Is arresting a guy for covering for his cousin over something that will end up being a ticket for cuz but an arrest for MB worth it?

The call for the abandoned car went out at 5 am and Barron was being charged at 7:30 Am according to the reports. It doesn't sound like any significant time, money, or police energies were wasted on the part of the MPD due to Barron's story and the guilty party did not get away.

No, Barron shouldn't have continued to lie (and maybe he really didn't know his cousin was driving, probably did but who knows? not us...at least not yet), but the cop easily could have let the issue go and simply made his point verbally once he had discovered who was really driving.

Silly thing for MB to do but a crap arrest overall. CNS will handle it, and MB will learn from it and move on. It is hardly an indicator of any bigger problems IMO.

Aight MD I had to give you one on that. You are so right. RTR!

posted by che boludo:


Cops have a common sense switch.  Is arresting a guy for covering for his cousin over something that will end up being a ticket for cuz but an arrest for MB worth it?


Leaving the scene of an accident is not a "ticket" offense. Its a Class A misdemeanor, the most serious type of misdemeanor in Alabama, punishable by a year in prison. Not exactly the same as a speeding ticket.       ;)

If MB's arrest is the worst of this off season for us, I'll take it.  

Well I guess I have to agree with you Chechem. I hope everybody gets football on their mind not foolishness. RTR!

Was it a single car accident?  Did he just lose control and hit the ditch without impacting any other cars?  I don't know the facts in this situation or how the law applies, but to me if it was a single car accident and no one else was involved, it seems like leaving the scene wouldn't be as big of an issue.  However if other cars where involved it is definitely a serious issue.  I don't know the answer or the law, I'm just asking.

On the other hand, I would like to know why the cousin left.  Was he just scared?  Or did he have some outstanding warrants or other problems?  Or maybe he was DUI?  Or maybe he had some weed in his pocket?  I'm sure he left the scene for a reason.

In any case one thing I am certain of is that CNS will get to the bottom of it, and punish him accordingly.  He doesn't put up with this kind of foolishness.

Definitely agree. We don't need any robbers, woman beaters, or worse.

Another question:  how old was this cousin?  If he is 16 and just got his license, maybe he was just scared.  If he was in his 20's and just left the club, then maybe he was DUI.  I guess Sunday morning at 5:00 AM he probably just came from the club that MB mentioned.

This is what we call just plain stupid and yeah CNS will set him straight as he should

From the cop in the arrest update I posted:

You get a "ticket" for DUI, but it's a serious thing.     ;)

You also get arrested with that DUI "ticket."

I'm really not trying to be an ass and am still not speaking in defense of Mark Barron as he appears to have known his cousin was at fault.  Again, it is the cop's belief that MB was lying.  We still don't know all the details.  It was reported that MB was arrested for stating repeatedly that someone named "Bull" took his car from the night club.  For all we know, that was a true statement to MB's knowledge.

For instance, I think it will be funny if after the whole story comes out that Barron wasn't lying in his statement, but solely omitting the ending.

Maybe they were all at the club. His friend "Bull" (name according to report) asks to borrow his car for some reason. MB says cool and tosses him the keys and Bull and MB's cousin depart together (maybe with or without MB's knowledge).

Bull and cousin get to their destination. Bull decides to call it a night. Cousin decides he wants to take MB's ride elsewhere or maybe back to the club. Cousin wrecks the car and bolts due to fear of something (DUI, no license, warrants, etc.)

In all likelihood, MB knew it was his cousin that wrecked the car as someone called him about it, but that wasn't his response.  He simply said that Bull had taken the car (which very well could have been true, just not the whole story).  So, when asked who took his car, he continued to say it was Bull and refused to change his story when prompted because it was true.

Is it lying to continue to repeat what you thought to be true in that Bull took your car originally?

This scenario is probably not the case as it is just as feasible to understand why he lied (to protect a family member...right or wrong...it is understandable as to why he may do that).  And even if the lie was through omission as I laid out, it was still wrong and people should just cooperate with the law (who are simply trying to do their jobs as well).

However, I'm just saying (IMO) that with the details presented the arrest was an overreaction by the cop given all the circumstances presented in the initial reports.

Obviously you differ in your opinion and I'm glad you are not a cop in my town.  It would be like that Andy Griffith episode where Barney had half the town locked up... "law and order has been kept in Mayberry this here day."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muQ3-YupivQ

skip to the 4 minute mark if you don't want to watch it all...one of my favorite episodes.

That would be me. I sincerely hope this resolves itself and all MB is really guilty of is protecting a  trusted family member. I also hope this is not yet another example of a cop, that was picked on by other kids all through grammar school, flexing his authoritative muscles.

I'll say this again, I dont think us white people understand what it means to be labeled a snitch in your neighborhood or worse with your family.  I would be way more surprised if he squealed.

Bama had another dback that did the same thing, Rashaad Johnson and I wouldn't consider him a thug. Still, Baron and Johnson could have used better judgement.

I love alll the contortions, excuses, hypothesizing, and conspiracy ideas some of my Tide posters are making for a Tide player who has been arrested. Like I said before, sounds like I'm on an Auburn board with them dscussing Cam or an Auburn player arrest. Sad.

Does the Mobile PD remind us of the Mayberry PD? RTR!

I live in Mobile. I think Barney is much more sophisticated.  ;)

Please know that my last was just for you as a joke based off of your previous barn board comment.  He is innocent until proven guilty and we don't know all of the details, but I think everyone knows enough (including the cop) to know that MB lied or omitted facts that delayed the cops initial investigation.  The story I made up was just for fun, but the Andy Griffith clip is pretty much how I imaging the cop for making such an arrest over such a reportedly small issue.

Should he have lied...no.

Was it stupid...yes.

Should he have been arrested...NO.

Was that stupid...yes.

Will CNS encourage him to do anything in court except apologize for his actions and take ownership of them while administering some minimal corrective punishment of his own...no.

Should CNS do more than that...no.

Will the charges be dropped..TBD, but I'm still saying most likely.

Is this discussion really anything like the denial that the barners have for $cam and the dirty cruitin...no, in that we all know he did something wrong, but the punishment should fit the crime.  It just wasn't something for which I feel he needed to be arrested.

Well for sure good buddy, if you are there I trust your kknowledge.  ;D Barney would say good job chief. Glenn Ford just pumped Barney up. If Barney ever married Juanita the force would have been better. RTR!

Hey che: I wasn't aiming my spear at anyone, it was just a generalization of what I think.

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Well, one thing is for certain.  It is very refreshing to come on here and see people have a civil debate about a difference of opinion instead of it evolving into a full out flame war.  This would never happen at TideSports, or pretty much any other forum I have seen.

E-cred for everybody in this thread.

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Totally agree, SC. It is good to have an exchange of ideas without getting flamed for having a different opinion. Kudos to you and the mods and my fellow posters for making it so thus far.

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Even the white "village idiots" around here will burn your house down for ratting. Not merely a "Black" thing.

It's more prevalent  in the Black community. I used to run a jail and believe me, the stigma of being a snitch to a black man is akin to being castrated. In my experiences, it was 10 times easier to interrogate a white man than a black man. MB would most likely prefer to face charges than to rat a friend or family member out.

Wow, this has already made a 5 page discussion. this has to be something very peculiar if it has this much traffic right? RTR!

Looks like fear of cousin being arrested on outstanding warrants takes the cake...

Mark Barron's cousin jailed on charges unrelated to wreck that lead to safety's arrest (http://blog.al.com/live/2011/03/barrons_cousin_jailed_on_charg.html)

Full Story (http://blog.al.com/live/2011/03/barrons_cousin_jailed_on_charg.html)

I don't like what I am hearing, hope there is nothing more to this.

more on it ...
this is the story and the video from the local news
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/bama-player%27s-cousin-has-lengthy-record

Talked to Barron today..........it was blown WAAAAY out of proportion & his cousin is already pretty much in poverty & on track to get an academic scholly & a charge would've looked terrible on a resume (& for a kid like him ESPECIALLY if you heard the story of how it happened & wasn't either his or Barron's fault, a charge regardless of what it is, turns several schools away)

I don't condone it, but I TOTALLY understand why he did what he did & if I was in the same position, I'm not sure, but I think I'd have probably done the EXACT same thing for someone A LOT less fortunate than me who needed a break on the BS situation they were in...

Uhm, Toxik76, look at some of the articles just posted in this thread.  The cousin has a long list of charges and in the mugshot he looks way too old to be on track for an academic scholarship.

Yeah, I was going to tell him to be careful listening to one side of the story, especially the accussed. Looks like he got totally suckered, if he really talked to Barron.

if you see Lang with a bottle ? RUN ! http://blog.al.com/live/2011/03/man_assaulted_with_bottle_anot.html

I HOPE I misunderstood Barron you're right seems like Lang is in trouble a lot more than I thought, it was a quick convo & he really didn't want to talk about it anyway, I think Lang has a younger brother he might've been talking about maybe I dunno

I'll get more scoop or as much as I can tomorrow & keep you guys posted

Well now I have quit worrying cause he is on the field so it means CNS is happy I am happy. RTR!