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Title: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:03:39 PM
Kick some butt Bama.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
Trial announcers?  ???


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:12:29 PM
Another sloppy start.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 07:13:10 PM
Wow. On our first possession we have 3 guys under the basket fighting for the rebound, after we miss the shot. Great indicator of a new desire to rebound the ball more.


 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:14:19 PM
6-3 OM.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 07:17:03 PM
This is what I want to see. The D causes two turnovers and we convert one for an easy basket, plus a great rebound by Greene and then the put back for the score. Tide leads 7-6. Timeout Ole Misses.


 :clap:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:17:07 PM
Wow! Bama waking up. JM aggressive under the basket for 2 and a Releford steal and layup. 7-6 Bama.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
No outside shooting once again. 8-7 OM.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 07:22:29 PM
Crap. Tide has 4 guys under the basket, but one Ole Miss player still rebounds it twice to score. Well, at least we had guys fighting for the ball. Just as I say this, the same thing happens again. What the crap?! Releford drives and scores, 12-9 OM with 12 minutes left in half.




Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
OM beating our azz on rebounding particularly the offensive board.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:25:50 PM
14-11 OM. Bama still not doing anything aggressive. Shooting is cold and defense is leaving the middle open.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
TM rebounds and hits for 2. Steele hits 1 of 2, 14-14.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:32:07 PM
Steele hits for 3 & TM slams one. 21-20 Bama.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:35:04 PM
No "D", 27-21 OM.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:37:37 PM
We make a run then slack off. OM hitting everything the last minute or so. I can't believe the cold outside shooting once again.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
OM on 9-0 run. Bama looks flat yet again.  :deadhorse:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 07:42:43 PM
We have to fight and claw for every shot, while OM seems to hit shots with little effort. Also, their rebounding is killing us. This is so frustrating.



 ???


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 07:44:16 PM
We're okay. 
OM will have to either get us in foul trouble or start controlling the paint.  This zone can't work forever.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
Absolutely a dreadful first half. We're lucky we aren't down by 15.  :pullhair:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 07:56:34 PM
We're okay. 
OM will have to either get us in foul trouble or start controlling the paint.  This zone can't work forever.



I don't think the zone has been a problem, it's our herky-jerky offense which seems to be so inconsistent, along with our getting beat on the boards. Grant usually makes adjustments at half, so I will be interested in what we try next.


 :dog:



Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 08:05:19 PM
I still can't believe we can't hit the outside shot. Steele has the only 3.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:10:02 PM
OM shot 56%, Tide 38%



 :deadhorse:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:14:01 PM
We're playing hard, that's a great sign. Lacey misses wide open three. Jacobs rebounds missed FT and scores. Good effort. 33-30 OM.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
We need to stop the 3's and do nothing but penetrate. Nobody can hit a 3.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
I don't mean to sound dramatic, but if we lose this game, we may as well kiss the NCAA goodbye. We can not continue to struggle so much on offense. Hankerson has been a godsent so far. He has 8 or 10 points off the bench.



 :pray:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 08:30:59 PM
41-41.  Your prayers were answered.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 08:31:30 PM
Big 7-0 run. 41-41. Keep up the intensity!


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Excellent passing and a score inside, all tied up 41 all. Jacobs & Hankerson have been the stars, with some help from Greene.



 :clap:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Folks, everyone on the floor is a sub, except Jacobs, for the Tide. Plus, the subs are doing great. Grant is sending a message. We are shooting 7-15 in 2nd half.



 #+


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:38:39 PM
Cooper hits a three! Tide leads 46-44. I hope Cooper can do that 3 more times in the game.



 :ty:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Bad call by refs. OM player completely out of control, but Bama intensity and outside shooting picking up.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:42:16 PM
Our bench has scored 25 points. Maybe they need to be on the court, now.


 :think:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 08:50:27 PM

Anybody's game with 2:30 left.   :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 08:58:52 PM
Crap!!! We just can't work the ball around for a good shot. We have to have someone besides Greene to look at late in the game. Overtime.


 >:(


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 08:59:46 PM
We get no home court advantage with the poor officiating.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
 :popcorn: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 09:02:46 PM
Our guys are terrified to shoot from the outside. We shy from shooting outside then try to force the pass inside where 4 Ole miss players are playing. This usually results in either a turnover or a blocked shot.



 :'(


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 09:05:59 PM
Positive thoughts.   :)


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
Double Overtime

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 09:20:55 PM
I am so disgusted!! Our players don't have a clue about how to rebound. They stand around waiting for the ball to come to them instead of going after the ball. You have to be aggressive.



 :dunno:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
I think the OM players might be tiring. We substituted liberally during the game and it might pay off now.




 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 09:33:27 PM
Finally - a win

:jump:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
This is a HUGE win for the Tide. We had to win this one. It was ugly, but we won.



 #+


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 09:35:22 PM
What a gutty performance. Not impressive but they didn't fold at the end.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
Whew


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: 2Stater on February 04, 2012, 09:51:15 PM
Whew

No kidding. The talent on this team should be off the charts. For whatever reason, they're just getting by. A win is a win is a win, I would just like to see more confidence, especially with the outside shooting.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 04, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
Whew

No kidding. The talent on this team should be off the charts. For whatever reason, they're just getting by. A win is a win is a win, I would just like to see more confidence, especially with the outside shooting.

Earlier this week I said it'd be a war.  More so than I thought!  Mega-WHEW.  :popcorn2:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 04, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
guys, we can't keep playing like this. We have to still play several teams at THEIR place, so things are not looking up. Also, Auburn is no easy win, in fact the only team we have left who might be called easy is LSU. We have to rebound better, period.


 :tinfoil:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Jamos on February 04, 2012, 10:19:02 PM
Ugly is only a 4 letter word which is small, but it was a big description of the way Bama played the first half. I know I'm beating on a dead horse but I still don't understand why Bama doesn't know how to beat the zone defense yet. I was so disgusted with the offense in the first half I almost left the game. I know CAG knows something about playing defense and it being up tempo but I don't think there's a coach on the team that knows how to draw up plays to beat a zone or can coach these players how to make the perimeter shots.

How Bama won that game is a wonder but they did and it was a big win but goodness they have got to get better offensively or it's going to be another disappointing season for them. I thought in the second half Bama was a different team hustle wise and it made a difference in getting some rebounds and loose balls.

The third thing that bothered me was the officiating of the game. I don't know how it looked on tv but at the game it wasn't a pretty sight, very inconsistant.

It was a win though and it wore me out trying to help them, I can only imagine how tired the players were after the game. Roll Tide!!  :clap:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 05, 2012, 05:04:53 AM
1. Ugly is only a 4 letter word which is small, but it was a big description of the way Bama played the first half. I know I'm beating on a dead horse but I still don't understand why Bama doesn't know how to beat the zone defense yet. I was so disgusted with the offense in the first half I almost left the game. I know CAG knows something about playing defense and it being up tempo but I don't think there's a coach on the team that knows how to draw up plays to beat a zone or can coach these players how to make the perimeter shots.

2. How Bama won that game is a wonder but they did and it was a big win but goodness they have got to get better offensively or it's going to be another disappointing season for them. I thought in the second half Bama was a different team hustle wise and it made a difference in getting some rebounds and loose balls.

3. The third thing that bothered me was the officiating of the game. I don't know how it looked on tv but at the game it wasn't a pretty sight, very inconsistent.

It was a win though and it wore me out trying to help them, I can only imagine how tired the players were after the game. Roll Tide!!  :clap:

Good assessment, J.  I'd like to add that 1) playing against a zone defense is difficult for a team that substitutes mucho (plays a lot of different players).  Even so, our team seems to be the only one that sees a zone so much and still struggles against it.  There seems to be almost no confidence in perimeter shooting.  I don't know how we ever win without a threat of 3-point shots.  :dunno:

2)  When we played zone defense it seemed the players didn't rebound well at all.  That's a characteristic of playing zone.  Ole Miss gave us a demonstration of how it's done at their end ("Watch the tape, coach.")

3)  The SEC officials were among the worst during the 1970s-80s.  The ACC officials were the best.  Until the past few years I thought the SEC had caught up.  NOT.  Consistency depends on having at least 2 of the officials calling the game evenly (one is at either end of the court).  We had an unmatched set last night.  It's a problem.

I'm giving you an e-cred for surviving the game and returning home to describe it for us.  Thanks.  #+ #+


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: pmull on February 05, 2012, 07:23:15 AM
A win is a win and we will take it. It was not pretty. We have to play better or we will finish below .500 in SEC play and that is unacceptable with the talant on this team.

IMO we are too easy to defend with the zone. Most zones gets spread out to defend the outside shot. Since we can not shoot the zone gets packed into the lane. That makes it very difficult to penetrate and easy for the defense to box out and rebound. Until we start hitting a few outside shots we will be looking a zones nearly 100% of the time.

The barn game at their place Tuesday night is going to be tough. It is a game we need to win. They play zone on everybody so we will see it for sure. They are playing much better than they did early in the season.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 05, 2012, 11:02:04 AM
All of you have made some excellent points. Unless we can start hitting shots from the outside & rebound, we are toast. It kills me to say this, but I really don't see us making the NCAA Tourney. We are going to have huge problems on the road in the SEC. Can we win against Auburn, Arkansas, & Ole Miss at their place? I don't see it. This means we have to beat Florida and Miss. State at our place. It's a bleak picture right now unless we start hitting shots from the outside. Our game at Auburn could will answer a lot of our concerns.



 :think:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 05, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
All of you have made some excellent points. Unless we can start hitting shots from the outside & rebound, we are toast. It kills me to say this, but I really don't see us making the NCAA Tourney. We are going to have huge problems on the road in the SEC. Can we win against Auburn, Arkansas, & Ole Miss at their place? I don't see it. This means we have to beat Florida and Miss. State at our place. It's a bleak picture right now unless we start hitting shots from the outside. Our game at Auburn could will answer a lot of our concerns.



 :think:
Even if Bama makes the tournament, it is a one and done team given the way it is playing right now.  Offensive production has been terrible.  I thought Lacey was going to provide some perimeter shooting, but now he apparently is hurt, hopefuly the injury is minor.

Anyway, I'm already starting to look towards next year, when the young players will have a season under their belt, and perhaps Releford will start to become the dominant player he has the potential to become.  Making the tournament would be a good experience for the team, and hopefully they make it this year, but this is still a young team with much work to be done.


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Marshal Dillon on February 05, 2012, 11:13:55 PM
All of you have made some excellent points. Unless we can start hitting shots from the outside & rebound, we are toast. It kills me to say this, but I really don't see us making the NCAA Tourney. We are going to have huge problems on the road in the SEC. Can we win against Auburn, Arkansas, & Ole Miss at their place? I don't see it. This means we have to beat Florida and Miss. State at our place. It's a bleak picture right now unless we start hitting shots from the outside. Our game at Auburn could will answer a lot of our concerns.



 :think:
Even if Bama makes the tournament, it is a one and done team given the way it is playing right now.  Offensive production has been terrible.  I thought Lacey was going to provide some perimeter shooting, but now he apparently is hurt, hopefuly the injury is minor.

Anyway, I'm already starting to look towards next year, when the young players will have a season under their belt, and perhaps Releford will start to become the dominant player he has the potential to become.  Making the tournament would be a good experience for the team, and hopefully they make it this year, but this is still a young team with much work to be done.


I'm not ready to throw in rthe towel, yet. I want to see how we do in Auburn. If we play flat with no enthusiasm and still can't throw it in the ocean, then we are finished.

 :pray:


Title: Re: ***Basketball In-game Ole Miss vs Alabama***
Post by: Chechem on February 06, 2012, 05:09:20 AM
The list of candidates among SEC teams for the tournament is not long: KY, FL, MSU, Vandy...

After that it's us, Ole Miss, or Arky.  The NCAA will likely take at least 5 SEC teams, and it's up to us to get there.  Ole Miss has a tough road yet; us not so much.  Arky's remaining games aren't too bad.  Bama @ Arky may decide the bid.