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Title: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 27, 2012, 12:44:34 PM It's the true American story of a legendary family feud—one that spanned decades and nearly launched a war between Kentucky and West Virginia.
A little inside info to add to your viewing enjoyment: The McCoy women are all smelly because they sleep with pigs and their men are latent (and unwashed) homosexuals. HTH Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 27, 2012, 01:53:09 PM I will be watching it , they had a little special on it the other night
sounds like a really good show ... Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: ricky023 on May 27, 2012, 02:54:54 PM I wonder from your description if kids will be watching this, pig stuff and the gay stuff? That would be sad huh? I wonder what it is rated? RTR!
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 27, 2012, 09:12:28 PM I wonder from your description if kids will be watching this, pig stuff and the gay stuff? That would be sad huh? I wonder what it is rated? RTR! Maybe I got a little carried away, Preacher. History Channel!Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: ricky023 on May 27, 2012, 10:15:27 PM I wonder from your description if kids will be watching this, pig stuff and the gay stuff? That would be sad huh? I wonder what it is rated? RTR! Maybe I got a little carried away, Preacher. History Channel!Your forgiven BAMAWV. :lol: #+, RTR! Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: 2Stater on May 28, 2012, 07:57:23 AM It's the true American story of a legendary family feud—one that spanned decades and nearly launched a war between Kentucky and West Virginia. A little inside info to add to your viewing enjoyment: The McCoy women are all smelly because they sleep with pigs and their men are latent (and unwashed) homosexuals. HTH Just a wild guess here, a little Hatfield blood running in the old BAMAWV veins? Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 28, 2012, 07:18:54 PM It's the true American story of a legendary family feud—one that spanned decades and nearly launched a war between Kentucky and West Virginia. A little inside info to add to your viewing enjoyment: The McCoy women are all smelly because they sleep with pigs and their men are latent (and unwashed) homosexuals. HTH Just a wild guess here, a little Hatfield blood running in the old BAMAWV veins? Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: ricky023 on May 28, 2012, 09:04:05 PM Awww shoot I didn't get to watch it. To much more foul language than I could handle. I hope you all enjoy it though. It look to have some great actors in it. RTR!
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 29, 2012, 07:44:20 AM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start
but got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 29, 2012, 12:39:02 PM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOLbut got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 29, 2012, 04:28:25 PM Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOL we live at the beach , guns and ammo are always close there too so, when we go on vacation we head to the mountains we see this all the time .... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/FISHFINDER/pier4-15-06007.jpg) been up to WV , Kentucky , Virgina and all over the Appalachian Region and loved every minute of it . maybe I can get back up there soon ... this is what we don't see so much of (http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/5/14908063154.png) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/1038745/4883070) been to every mountain region in the US but up there is hard to beat during the fall when the leaves are turning it's really beautiful Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 29, 2012, 07:58:31 PM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOLbut got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: 2Stater on May 29, 2012, 09:06:34 PM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOLbut got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Sounds like the show "Justified" which is supposedly set in Harlan, Ky. Good show, BTW. Preacher, not a show for you. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 29, 2012, 10:34:18 PM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOLbut got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Sounds like the show "Justified" which is supposedly set in Harlan, Ky. Good show, BTW. Preacher, not a show for you. Never saw the show but bet I would enjoy seeing the TV take on reality. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: N.AL-Tider on May 30, 2012, 09:47:39 AM They are supposed to show parts 1, 2, and 3 tonight.
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: SUPERCOACH on May 30, 2012, 10:06:21 AM I've been watching it. I would have to agree with Ricky. The vulgarity is out of control. It adds nothing to the story and is only there for shock value IMO. It is an interesting series though.
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 30, 2012, 11:06:30 AM I've been watching it. I would have to agree with Ricky. The vulgarity is out of control. It adds nothing to the story and is only there for shock value IMO. It is an interesting series though. I've heard rough language before. Probably more historically accurate with the cussing. You can hear worse on any playground in America so this gives you the opportunity to point out to your children which words and terms you consider inappropriate. The kids aren't hearing anything for the first time and you at least have some control in your living room (of course the big control--OFF). I'm not sure when language restrictions stopped on TV. I guess this is the difference between pay TV (cable, satellite) and free TV through the airwaves (network broadcasting). But it seems worse in the last year. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: SUPERCOACH on May 30, 2012, 11:32:53 AM I think it is cable vs. airwaves.
I'm not talking about just the occasional bad word when you stub your toe (or get shot lol), or even a whole string of bad words. I'm referring to things like what Mrs. McCoy said to Randall about bearing more children after he returned home from the war. It doesn't offend me, in fact there is a very similar incident in the bible. I just thought it was unnecessary, added nothing to the story, and was only there for shock value. I think it is a very interesting story, and all of that stuff just gets in the way of telling the story. I have my doubts that whole communities of supposedly church going folks really talked like that 140 years ago. I think this is a recent trend that I first noticed in the movie Cold Mountain. Contrast this to "Little House on the Prairie" or "Gun Smoke". Those were probably too pristine, but I think the pendulum has definitely swung the other way now, by far. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 30, 2012, 12:49:48 PM something so far in the show they may have gotten wrong
the Hatfield-McCoy baby from Roseanna and Johnse died in real life . at least that's what I was told ... Roseanna got measles and lost the baby it's been good so far but they need to back off on the "western" flavor a little or maybe it's because Costner is making more cowboyish :dunno: Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 30, 2012, 12:58:31 PM ps
and Roseanna McCoy had black hair :clap: Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 30, 2012, 01:37:51 PM there is one other little "minor" detail ... it was filmed in Romania :dunno:
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: 2Stater on May 30, 2012, 02:19:39 PM it wasn't bad , had to wait until the grandson left so I missed the start Forget the trip to the beach this summer and instead take the family to visit McDowell County, WV or Harlan County, KY. Enjoy a trip back in time but bring guns and ammo. LOLbut got to see what I missed later ... heck of a story , a different time , I have to wonder how many of today would have made it back then ... what Hatfield did after the battle with the Yankees ? should McCoy have left for home with him ? or shot him ? Sounds like the show "Justified" which is supposedly set in Harlan, Ky. Good show, BTW. Preacher, not a show for you. Never saw the show but bet I would enjoy seeing the TV take on reality. The season ended a couple of weeks ago, and doesn't start back up until January. I think you can Hulu season 3 episodes if you like. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 30, 2012, 02:26:58 PM there is one other little "minor" detail ... it was filmed in Romania :dunno: My bet on that one is so the movie company didn't spend the next 10 years defending personal injury law suits and workmans comp claims.Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 30, 2012, 03:00:50 PM My bet on that one is so the movie company didn't spend the next 10 years defending personal injury law suits and workmans comp claims. the location people spent three weeks looking over the land and found it was almost identical the the real place that and Romania is apparently known for great stunt people which like you said cuts down law suits http://www.history.com/shows/hatfields-and-mccoys/videos/romania-becomes-appalachia#romania-becomes-appalachia Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 30, 2012, 11:29:15 PM The landscape in Romania does look a lot like the 3 or 4 county area of WV where I live. It does NOT resemble the area of WV where the fued took place. The mountains (hills) along the Kentucky - West Virginia border aren't any close elevation wise. Also the hills in Pikeville/ Logan area are extremely steep. But while the mountain vistas are well preserved where I live, the hills in coal country are deeply scarred by mountaintop removal and clear cut logging.
However, one section of coal country that is nice, mostly through coal company reclaimation is called the Hatfields and McCoy Trail. This has been set aside for hundreds of miles of 4 wheeler trails which has become quite a tourist draw. Somehow (probably by the cost of trail tickets) the state has managed to keep the local felons, psycopaths, moonshiners and crank cookers away from the tourist. I'll find a link later. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: SUPERCOACH on May 30, 2012, 11:37:41 PM Hundreds of miles of 4-wheeler trails sounds like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 30, 2012, 11:48:01 PM Hundreds of miles of 4-wheeler trails sounds like a lot of fun. Is it possible the servers crashed on that sight due to the traffic of people that had watched the show. I can't connect with website-- its googled WV ATV Hatfields and McCoys will get you there.Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 30, 2012, 11:57:22 PM Hundreds of miles of 4-wheeler trails sounds like a lot of fun. Is it possible the servers crashed on that sight due to the traffic of people that had watched the show. I can't connect with website-- its googled WV ATV Hatfields and McCoys will get you there.Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 31, 2012, 05:56:56 AM if ya' get up to Pikeville tell Patty and Dwight howdy for me :D
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2012, 01:40:27 PM Hundreds of miles of 4-wheeler trails sounds like a lot of fun. Is it possible the servers crashed on that sight due to the traffic of people that had watched the show. I can't connect with website-- its googled WV ATV Hatfields and McCoys will get you there.Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2012, 09:23:50 PM (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s320x320/579484_10151807303890574_1319445177_n.jpg)
Baptism of Devil Anse Hatfield (standing at right) Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: 2Stater on May 31, 2012, 09:28:36 PM (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s320x320/579484_10151807303890574_1319445177_n.jpg) Baptism of Devil Anse Hatfield (standing at right) I know a lot is added to movies for dramatic effect, but I can't understand why they portrayed Anse Hatfield as a deserter from the Confederate army. Everything I read said he and McCoy came home after the war. I found nothing stating he had deserted. Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on May 31, 2012, 09:31:14 PM even if he had deserted , no one , including McCoy had Balz enough to bring it up :dunno:
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on May 31, 2012, 09:39:58 PM even if he had deserted , no one , including McCoy had Balz enough to bring it up :dunno: He said in the special that he was choosing for himself when he fights and against whom. Not really a cowards remark.Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 01, 2012, 09:23:40 AM They all looked like a bunch of bumbling idiot hillbillies in that last battle scene. Guys throwing dynamite into trees and having it bounce back on them, another guy sticking his hand out in front of a gun and getting shot, Randall being drunk and running right into a tree and just about knocking himself out, Cottontop falling asleep during the gunfight... I'm sure there were other things I am forgetting. After two nights of build up, that seemed like an odd direction for the story to take with the final battle.
Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: 2Stater on June 01, 2012, 09:35:30 AM They all looked like a bunch of bumbling idiot hillbillies in that last battle scene. Guys throwing dynamite into trees and having it bounce back on them, another guy sticking his hand out in front of a gun and getting shot, Randall being drunk and running right into a tree and just about knocking himself out, Cottontop falling asleep during the gunfight... I'm sure there were other things I am forgetting. After two nights of build up, that seemed like an odd direction for the story to take with the final battle. Hollywood making it's point "War is stupid", lol! Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: SUPERCOACH on June 01, 2012, 10:20:23 AM They all looked like a bunch of bumbling idiot hillbillies in that last battle scene. Guys throwing dynamite into trees and having it bounce back on them, another guy sticking his hand out in front of a gun and getting shot, Randall being drunk and running right into a tree and just about knocking himself out, Cottontop falling asleep during the gunfight... I'm sure there were other things I am forgetting. After two nights of build up, that seemed like an odd direction for the story to take with the final battle. Hollywood making it's point "War is stupid", lol! They were definitely trying to make a point, but I wasn't sure if it was "war is stupid" or "country people are stupid". Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on June 01, 2012, 10:40:27 AM You know this wasn't the only time federal troops were threatened on my boys down in coal country. The unionizing of the coal fields brought about huge gun conflicts. At one point, the WV Air Guard dropped bombs on Union supporters from Charleston going toward Logan Co. for an armed conflict. Sid Hatfield was at that time Sheriff of the town of Matewan. The woman's Granddad was sheriff of Fayette Co. at that time and rode horseback and carried a sword. We have his sword in our home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: Leroy on June 01, 2012, 11:08:59 AM You know this wasn't the only time federal troops were threatened on my boys down in coal country. The unionizing of the coal fields brought about huge gun conflicts. At one point, the WV Air Guard dropped bombs on Union supporters from Charleston going toward Logan Co. for an armed conflict. Sid Hatfield was at that time Sheriff of Logan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain #+ Good reading Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: BAMAWV on June 02, 2012, 08:43:28 AM You know this wasn't the only time federal troops were threatened on my boys down in coal country. The unionizing of the coal fields brought about huge gun conflicts. At one point, the WV Air Guard dropped bombs on Union supporters from Charleston going toward Logan Co. for an armed conflict. Sid Hatfield was at that time Sheriff of the town of Matewan. The woman's Granddad was sheriff of Fayette Co. at that time and rode horseback and carried a sword. We have his sword in our home. Battle of Blair Mountainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain Title: Re: The Hatfields and McCoys : Monday night, 8c History Channel Post by: XBAMA on June 03, 2012, 09:13:24 AM talking about the show on one of the fishing sites I visit and a guy
posted this ... :dunno: Quote I am a direct descendant of the Hatfield's. There were several reasons why the feud started. 1. William Anderson Hatfield (aka Devil Anse Hatfield) deserted the Confederate Army to go home and take care of his starving family. Randolph McCoy (aka Ran'el McCoy) wanted him tried for desertion but they wouldn't try him after the war. 2. Ran'el McCoy's pig got into Floyd Hatfield's corn and when Floyd Hatfield wouldn't give the pig back without re-imbursement for the corn, McCoy sued and lost in court and had to pay for the corn and lost the pig too. Pizzed him off BIG time. 3. Johnse Hatfield impregnated Roseanna McCoy and wouldn't marry her or support the child. That added insult to the "injury". Contrary to the TV version, he impregnated her as an insult to the McCoy's and Johnse had no intention on marrying her. 4. Devil Hatfield harvested lumber on land that was supposedly not his and got wealthy from it and Ran'el McCoy thought his family was swindled out of the land. 5. A little known fact left out is that at a local party, several McCoy boys slighted the "honor" of a Hatfield girl and a couple of them were severely beaten by the Hatfield girl's date at the party. It all added up to a strong hatred between the families and the feud actually drew in a lot of local's who chose sides and fought too. Sorry for the long read, but I have several very old newspapers with articles about the feud and these stories were passed down in our family also. So far, I think the show is pretty accurate, all things considered. |