NCAA announces "unprecedented" penalties against Penn St - updated

[Jamos]

Hmmm, maybe some folks on the forum will now believe it is an NCAA issue after all. 

Yep, even the god-complexed NCAA felt the pressure to act on this one.

just watched them take the statue down too ...

they are saying it's bowl bans ,  scholarships gone ,  what else you think ?

That's unprecedented? 

Yeah really, that sounds more like the norm if you're from Alabama.

[XBAMA]

I think the unprecedented part is the WAY the NCAA is
proceeding with the penalties not giving Penn St. the
chance to defend .

[Marshal Dillon]

A source who also called the penalties unprecedented and harsh told ESPN's Joe Schad they will likely include a loss of bowl appearances and/or scholarships. It is expected the NCAA Division I Board of Directors and/or the NCAA Executive Committee has granted Emmert the authority to punish through non-traditional methods, the source said. To any degree, the NCAA is taking unprecedented measures with the decision to penalize Penn State without the traditional due process of a Committee on Infractions hearing.

What's more harsh than the death penalty? Are they going to bulldoze the stadium and athletic areas and plant trees? All I can figure is they will hand down several penalties with harsher than normal time frames or numbers. For example, loss of 35-40 scholarships, 3 year bowl ban, loss of TV revenue for 3 years, 10 years of probation, etc.


  

[Chechem]

A source who also called the penalties unprecedented and harsh told ESPN's Joe Schad they will likely include a loss of bowl appearances and/or scholarships. It is expected the NCAA Division I Board of Directors and/or the NCAA Executive Committee has granted Emmert the authority to punish through non-traditional methods, the source said. To any degree, the NCAA is taking unprecedented measures with the decision to penalize Penn State without the traditional due process of a Committee on Infractions hearing.

What's more harsh than the death penalty? Are they going to bulldoze the stadium and athletic areas and plant trees? All I can figure is they will hand down several penalties with harsher than normal time frames or numbers. For example, loss of 35-40 scholarships, 3 year bowl ban, loss of TV revenue for 3 years, 10 years of probation, etc.
  

I agree with X; "unprecedented" doesn't mean "most harsh".  It's the Big 10.  This will mean they get punished without a long-term investigation or chance to be heard first.

[XBAMA]

Chech , I will be very surprised if the penalties Penn St. receive are
anything near what has happened right here at the U of A, and for
much less IMO ... we'll see 8am tomorrow

 

[Chechem]

Chech , I will be very surprised if the penalties Penn St. receive are
anything near what has happened right here at the U of A, and for
much less IMO ... we'll see 8am tomorrow
 

Click here for link

Story out: loss of schollys and bowl appearances.

[Marshal Dillon]

Chech , I will be very surprised if the penalties Penn St. receive are
anything near what has happened right here at the U of A, and for
much less IMO ... we'll see 8am tomorrow
 

Click here for link

Story out: loss of schollys and bowl appearances.

Yeah, I was just reading about this.

But Penn State will not receive the so-called "death penalty" that would have suspended the program for at least one year, the source said.

The penalties, however, are considered to be so harsh that the death penalty may have been preferable, the source said.

This goes back to what I just posted about a higher number of standard penalties. Could a loss of 50 scholarships be in the the offing? Plus a 3-5 year bowl ban & loss of TV revenue and maybe more. What else could they do? I don't see Penn State fighting this, since it would make them look like they are dodging responsibility and repercussions for shielding a child rapist.

[pmull]

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
One penalty I expect to see: Joe Paterno won't have 409 wins any more.

[Marshal Dillon]

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
One penalty I expect to see: Joe Paterno won't have 409 wins any more.

Boy, I sure hope that is true. I would love to see them forfeit games for at least 2 or 3 seasons. I don't see them going back 10-14 years to forfeit games.

 

[2Stater]

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
One penalty I expect to see: Joe Paterno won't have 409 wins any more.

Boy, I sure hope that is true. I would love to see them forfeit games for at least 2 or 3 seasons. I don't see them going back 10-14 years to forfeit games.

 

MD, I don't see why not. It was that long ago when it happened. When the NCAA imposes the penalties of vacated wins, they go back to the time of the infraction. They certainly did with Bama. I think if they are going to impose the penalty at all, they should go back to the initial infraction. It's about time the NCAA showed some consistency in it's decisions.

[Marshal Dillon]

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
One penalty I expect to see: Joe Paterno won't have 409 wins any more.

Boy, I sure hope that is true. I would love to see them forfeit games for at least 2 or 3 seasons. I don't see them going back 10-14 years to forfeit games.

 

MD, I don't see why not. It was that long ago when it happened. When the NCAA imposes the penalties of vacated wins, they go back to the time of the infraction. They certainly did with Bama. I think if they are going to impose the penalty at all, they should go back to the initial infraction. It's about time the NCAA showed some consistency in it's decisions.

I guess the forfeiture of games going back 10 years would come under the heading of unprecedented sanctions, so they could be looking at doing that in order to send a strong message to coaches more worried about their legacy than doing the right thing.

[2Stater]

Cecil Hurt ‏@CecilHurt
One penalty I expect to see: Joe Paterno won't have 409 wins any more.

Boy, I sure hope that is true. I would love to see them forfeit games for at least 2 or 3 seasons. I don't see them going back 10-14 years to forfeit games.

 

MD, I don't see why not. It was that long ago when it happened. When the NCAA imposes the penalties of vacated wins, they go back to the time of the infraction. They certainly did with Bama. I think if they are going to impose the penalty at all, they should go back to the initial infraction. It's about time the NCAA showed some consistency in it's decisions.

I guess the forfeiture of games going back 10 years would come under the heading of unprecedented sanctions, so they could be looking at doing that in order to send a strong message to coaches more worried about their legacy than doing the right thing.

Amen to that. Guess we'll find out tomorrow. 

[Chechem]

Taking away enough wins from Paterno to put him behind Bowden would be appropriate, and it'd be something the NCAA would likely do.  I could see that.  It would also punish him instead of the current players, though they'll get theirs too.

[Catch Prothro]

Some of the Penn State faithful do seem to believe that the punishment itself is too harsh.  But really?  What's worse, harboring a criminal and allowing criminal conduct to continue, or a kid signing a cocktail napkin while celebrating a big win?

[XBAMA]

Some of the Penn State faithful do seem to believe that the punishment itself is too harsh.  But really?  What's worse, harboring a criminal and allowing criminal conduct to continue, or a kid signing a cocktail napkin while celebrating a big win?

I still say that was a hell of a play AL made in Birmingham on the pick 6

 back on topic
I'm afraid , us and some more of the NCAA dog house favorites are
not going to be happy tomorrow when the crime and punishment comparison is made .   hope I'm dead wrong .

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