The Great Immigration Debate

[Marshal Dillon]

Here's why illegal immigration is draining the country of limited resources. This cuts through all the propaganda the liberal media tries to put out. More than likely, this won't be reported on most liberal TV news shows.



Click here for link

[SUPERCOACH]

62% WOW that is crazy.

[che boludo]

Here's why illegal immigration is draining the country of limited resources. This cuts through all the propaganda the liberal media tries to put out. More than likely, this won't be reported on most liberal TV news shows.



Click here for link

Similar news that has always been at the heart of the immigration reform talks, but like I said, it is a policy issue in regard to social service reform that is clearly broken and being abused by all sides (legal and illegal).

Laws can be made to prevent this abuse and make it less attractive to come to the US without the "round'em up" policies that no doubt will find many non-illegals being hassled.  

I am in favor of reform, just opposed to laws that are going to cause more problems than good as the current ones are designed to do.

We can be smarter about how we create the change.

Policies can be altered to put in place rules that only guarantee rights for citizenship for those born in the country legally (by right of blood ( jus sanguinis), born to authorized visitors with legal visas, etc.) but preclude guaranteed rights of citizenship to illegal born children as well as their access to all US social services and public institutions.  That is not too difficult to achieve.

In fact, following up on the need for effective migrant worker policies this would be one more manner of making it more attractive to come to the US legally and register as an authorized/approved migrant worker.  It would enable your children the right to become dual citizens thus helping their own citizenship desires.  But, even in that case, the rights to services should be limited in scope until the child is either of legal age and/or a ward of the state to prevent abuse by non-US citizens.

Again, I'm advocating better systems, not dumber laws.

I miss statesman that put the benfit of the country over the potential for personal gain (re-election).  Maybe, term limits would help everything significantly, but that is yet another discussion.

[SUPERCOACH]

YES WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TERM LIMITS!  We have them for the President.  There is no reason why we shouldn't have them for Senators.

[ricky023]

Well I am here but I surely am reading and not replying. I done stirred up enough dust to blind the eyes of all. RTR!

[SUPERCOACH]

Well I am here but I surely am reading and not replying. I done stirred up enough dust to blind the eyes of all. RTR!

Don't worry about it.  It was an innocent joke IMO.  I think the dust has mostly settled now.

[ricky023]

  yea SC. You know it kinda of made me feel like I said something bad but you know how it is.  I love these folks here they keep us in check. RTR!

[pmull]

yea SC. You know it kinda of made me feel like I said something bad but you know how it is.  I love these folks here they keep us in check. RTR!

I am ready for you to stir something else up. That was fun.

[ricky023]

yea SC. You know it kinda of made me feel like I said something bad but you know how it is.  I love these folks here they keep us in check. RTR!

I am ready for you to stir something else up. That was fun.

Lordy no pmull, lol, I think being a preacher from the country i should still know better. rofl. RTR!

[che boludo]

yea SC. You know it kinda of made me feel like I said something bad but you know how it is.  I love these folks here they keep us in check. RTR!

I am ready for you to stir something else up. That was fun.

That was the funny part to me. 

The drawn out intent of my original post was mostly to play off of your joke and come around to jab the barn in the eye in that I wouldn't lump illegal aliens (neither the good ones nor the bad ones) in with the trash on the Booger Board of Trustees.


But, other agendas prevailed...all for the greater good in my opinion though, so thanks.   

[ricky023]

Hey che I still love ya man, it is so good to see how many intelligent people we have and discussions and then it all comes out with friendship. RTR!

[BAMAWV]

In hindsight, I guess the point is that Auburn sux and their board of trustees is finally getting a much needed face lift.

Sorry, Bamawv.

What the Hell?  Today is the first I've seen of this conversation. Maybe posted in the wrong thread?

[ricky023]

Well BAMAWV give us your feelings on this post. RTR!

[2Stater]

In hindsight, I guess the point is that Auburn sux and their board of trustees is finally getting a much needed face lift.

Sorry, Bamawv.

What the Hell?  Today is the first I've seen of this conversation. Maybe posted in the wrong thread?

Me too. Dayum! 

[SUPERCOACH]

In hindsight, I guess the point is that Auburn sux and their board of trustees is finally getting a much needed face lift.

Sorry, Bamawv.

What the Hell?  Today is the first I've seen of this conversation. Maybe posted in the wrong thread?

You do know that the President's Mansion is the appropriate forum for talking about politics, right? 

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