Alabama's Postseason Fate on the Line Against Florida (11:00 ESPN)

[pmull]

I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year. 

The assistant needs to be 6'-10" with eligibilty remaining capible of putting up a double-double every game.

[Catch Prothro]

You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.

Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset.  What's the rule?

[pmull]

You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.

Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset.  What's the rule?

The shot hit the goal. Shot clock resets.

[Catch Prothro]

So your solution is to simply score more points? Brilliant!

I bet it would work!

My issues are clock management and scoring droughts.  Clock management can be addressed in practice.  The way to address scoring droughts is having several players capable of stepping up when needed.  As you said, Releford is the only consistent scorer.  Because none of the other players are consistent, it has to be a numbers game -- having enough players who are partially consistent, maybe one of them will get hot at the right time, or hit something.  Cooper has done it before, as has Lacey.  Jacobs has the possibility, though Florida knew that and started double covering him during the drought.

Looking at the season stats, Releford then Lacey are the leading scorers.  Cooper and Randolph are the leading rebounders!  (Gueye, Jacobs?)  And Lacey then Releford are the leading assists.  Maybe next year, when Pollard and Obasohan should be improved, will there be enough scorers. 

Dakota Slaughter is the 11th scholarship?  An Julian Goode, Keon Blackledge, and Isiah Wilson are Junior walk-ons?

[Catch Prothro]

You know things are not going your way when you are down by 6 and a little over a minute to play. You must get a defensive stop. You play great defense and force a bad shot. You have three men ready to get the rebound to Florida's none. Then the ball gets stuck between the goal and backboard and the arrow is pointing Florida's way. It was that kind of day.

Yep.  What I didn't understand was the shot clock reset to 35 seconds.  A couple of times earlier in the game, with a jump ball where Bama retained possession, the clock was not reset. What's the rule?

The shot hit the goal. Shot clock resets.

Oh yeah.    

I guess I got confused because it seems the clock should always be reset, as it should be considered a new possession on a jump ball, but that's not the rule when a team retains the ball.

[Marshal Dillon]

I think Anthony Grant went to the Les Miles school of clock management.

Eight seconds left, do you:


1. call a timeout, set up a play  

or

2. hold the ball for the entire 8 seconds without shooting    


Otherwise, Bama is hanging tough and playing well.  Three point game at half.  

It is not CAG fault Randolph did not take a wide open three pointer. Instead he drove to the lane and ran out the clock. That is on Randolph. He may not be the best outside shooter but he is too basketball smart to not know he has to take that shot.

There have been several games this season where Bama has run down the clock excessively and then taken a poor shot with the clock expiring.  You don't need to run the clock down to that last tick -- you want to preserve time for rebounding and tip ins.  Bama almost got it right against LSU in OT, Cooper just needed a fraction of a second more for the tip back.

If this were an isolated incident, it would be on Randolph (who does seem timid about shooting, and in crowds).  But because Bama consistently has missed these opportunities, I think coaching is involved.  If nothing else, devote more time in practice to those final seconds.

I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year.


  

So your solution is to simply score more points? Brilliant!

No my solution is to develop a better offense &/or game plan and one that does not shut down for 10 minutes and to shoot FT's better. It's called practice.


 

[Marshal Dillon]

I agree completely with these observations by Prothro. We scored 3 points in the last 12 minutes of this game. This is a repeat of games against LSU, Tennessee, & Auburn. We should have won all 3 of those games. In almost every game, we will go long stretches (7 minutes or more) without scoring or scoring 1-4 points. This is what is killing us, along with too much fouling, & poor FT shooting on our part.I expect to see a new assistant coach added at the end of the year. 

The assistant needs to be 6'-10" with eligibilty remaining capible of putting up a double-double every game.

LOL!!! Now that is a great idea! Magic Johnson left school early, could we get a waiver on someone like him? Maybe someone who left school early, say around 2001 but could not cut it in the NBA and we could hire.


 






 

[SUPERCOACH]

Bama by 8 12:30-- Releford shooting 1. RTR

This is the point where I thought we had them.  But then our offense decides to go on a 10 minute drought like it usually does at least once per game.

[SUPERCOACH]

They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

[Marshal Dillon]

They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

Winning 20 games is not the standard anymore in college BB. When there were 26/27 regular season games 15 years ago, then 20 wins was significant. Schedules are now 30/31 games during the regular season. Winning 22/23 even 24 games during the regular season is the new standard. It's like college football when there were 10 regular season games and winning 8 games was a solid season. Not anymore.


 

[pmull]

They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

The last 3 20 win season in a row were 90,91,92 under Wimp Sanderson. 92 was Wimp's last year. We had 20 win seasons and NCAA bids in 7 out of his last 8 years.

Getting 20 wins is not the automatic bid to the tournament like it used to be but it is still a milestone teams strive for.

Grant is not on the hot seat IMO. We are top 4 in the SEC and on the NCAA bubble. Things could be a lot worse. Grant's best days at Alabama are ahead of him. We lose one player (Steele) off this team. Everyone else will be back.

I am excited about the future of Alabama Basketball with Coach Grant.

[Marshal Dillon]

They pointed out something in the broadcast that we are overlooking.  If we get 1 more win this year (surely we will) then we will have 3 20 win seasons in a row and we have not done that since 90, 91, 92.  I think that should put things into perspective as far as whether or not CAG has us going in the right direction.  I think we are getting there.  I also noticed during the broadcast that CBD started at UF in 96, but they did not win their first NC until 10 years later in 06.  Maybe we need to give CAG a little more breathing room and be patient for a few more years.  This isn't football.  There are well over 300 basketball teams, 3 times more than football.  With a fairly small roster (compared to football) even little schools that wouldn't have a prayer can compete in basketball (see Gonzaga).

The last 3 20 win season in a row were 90,91,92 under Wimp Sanderson. 92 was Wimp's last year. We had 20 win seasons and NCAA bids in 7 out of his last 8 years.

Getting 20 wins is not the automatic bid to the tournament like it used to be but it is still a milestone teams strive for.

Grant is not on the hot seat IMO. We are top 4 in the SEC and on the NCAA bubble. Things could be a lot worse. Grant's best days at Alabama are ahead of him. We lose one player (Steele) off this team. Everyone else will be back.

I am excited about the future of Alabama Basketball with Coach Grant.

The hot seat will definitely be next year if things do not progress significantly. We can not lose to teams like Auburn, Tulane, Mercer, & other borderline teams.

 

[Catch Prothro]

No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.

[Marshal Dillon]

No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.

That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


 

[pmull]

No, he's not on the hot seat.  Next year has real potential, as long as Releford returns.

That is the HUGE key to next years team. If he leaves early, oh crap.


 

Releford is a good college player but I don't think he will get drafted or ever play in the NBA. I don't think he leaves early to go overseas to play. JMHO

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