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[pmull]

I have to disagree on some of your points. We have to have strength-of-schedule factored into the equation. No way picking the best teams from each conference would be fair or even a good idea. The SEC has historically been a weaker BB conference than the ACC & Big Ten. How do you determine the best teams in a conference? Conference records are deceiving since you can have 3 really good teams in the SEC but have 5 really good teams in the ACC, as an example. Using number of championships won is skewered since so many teams play in the NCAA Tourney. I would like to know how well conferences have done say in making the Sweet 16, Elite 8, & Final Four.

I don't have a link but I looked up the last five years by BCS conference:

Conference         Sweet 16      Elite 8      Final 4     Winner

ACC                       9                5              4           2
Big East                  13              8              4           1
Big 10                     13              3              3           0
Big 12                     11              9              4           1
Pac 10                    6                2              1           0
SEC                        8                7              1           1 

[ricky023]

I have to disagree on some of your points. We have to have strength-of-schedule factored into the equation. No way picking the best teams from each conference would be fair or even a good idea. The SEC has historically been a weaker BB conference than the ACC & Big Ten. How do you determine the best teams in a conference? Conference records are deceiving since you can have 3 really good teams in the SEC but have 5 really good teams in the ACC, as an example. Using number of championships won is skewered since so many teams play in the NCAA Tourney. I would like to know how well conferences have done say in making the Sweet 16, Elite 8, & Final Four.

I don't have a link but I looked up the last five years by BCS conference:

Conference         Sweet 16      Elite 8      Final 4     Winner

ACC                       9                5              4           2
Big East                  13              8              4           1
Big 10                     13              3              3           0
Big 12                     11              9              4           1
Pac 10                    6                2              1           0
SEC                        8                7              1           1 

  for pmull for the work of finding this stat. I was kind of wondering the same thing. I still think if we had a Wimp Sanderson again he would slap these guys in shape and get things going.  , RTR!

[Marshal Dillon]

I have to disagree on some of your points. We have to have strength-of-schedule factored into the equation. No way picking the best teams from each conference would be fair or even a good idea. The SEC has historically been a weaker BB conference than the ACC & Big Ten. How do you determine the best teams in a conference? Conference records are deceiving since you can have 3 really good teams in the SEC but have 5 really good teams in the ACC, as an example. Using number of championships won is skewered since so many teams play in the NCAA Tourney. I would like to know how well conferences have done say in making the Sweet 16, Elite 8, & Final Four.

I don't have a link but I looked up the last five years by BCS conference:

Conference         Sweet 16      Elite 8      Final 4     Winner

ACC                       9                5              4           2
Big East                  13              8              4           1
Big 10                     13              3              3           0
Big 12                     11              9              4           1
Pac 10                    6                2              1           0
SEC                        8                7              1           1 

Good stuff pmull. I went back to 1990 on Final Four teams to come up with some interesting numbers. I did not count every single team from a conference such as the Colonial conference, Big West, or conferences which no longer exist.


ACC=21 appearances
Big Ten= 16
SEC=14
Big East=10
Big 12=10
PAC 12=9


The SEC hung in there pretty well with the ACC & Big Ten.

 

[Catch Prothro]

Sweet 16 and beyond (2007-2011)

ACC: 8 teams, 12-6, .667

Big East: 11 teams, 16-10, .615

SEC: 8 teams, 8-7, .533

Big 12: 10 teams, 10-9, .526

Big Ten: 10 teams, 8-10, .444

Pac-12: 9 teams, 5-9, .357

[pmull]

Sweet 16 and beyond (2007-2011)

ACC: 8 teams, 12-6, .667

Big East: 11 teams, 16-10, .615

SEC: 8 teams, 8-7, .533

Big 12: 10 teams, 10-9, .526

Big Ten: 10 teams, 8-10, .444

Pac-12: 9 teams, 5-9, .357

These numbers do not include 2012 when Florida reached the Elite 8 and Kentucky won the Championship.

I think these numbers show the SEC is holding their own at the top of the league. The SEC is getting snubbed because over the last few years in the Big East-SEC Challenge and some other early season games we have not done well in the bottom half of the league.

[BAMAWV]

Sweet 16 and beyond (2007-2011)

ACC: 8 teams, 12-6, .667

Big East: 11 teams, 16-10, .615

SEC: 8 teams, 8-7, .533

Big 12: 10 teams, 10-9, .526

Big Ten: 10 teams, 8-10, .444

Pac-12: 9 teams, 5-9, .357

These numbers do not include 2012 when Florida reached the Elite 8 and Kentucky won the Championship.

I think these numbers show the SEC is holding their own at the top of the league. The SEC is getting snubbed because over the last few years in the Big East-SEC Challenge and some other early season games we have not done well in the bottom half of the league.

Year after year sports reporting (mostly in the Northeast) says the SEC is down and the Big East is the greatest. But as the above #s show, that is not the case even when the SEC is disadvantaged with less team participation in the NCAA Tourney.

 

[Marshal Dillon]

Sweet 16 and beyond (2007-2011)

ACC: 8 teams, 12-6, .667

Big East: 11 teams, 16-10, .615

SEC: 8 teams, 8-7, .533

Big 12: 10 teams, 10-9, .526

Big Ten: 10 teams, 8-10, .444

Pac-12: 9 teams, 5-9, .357

These numbers do not include 2012 when Florida reached the Elite 8 and Kentucky won the Championship.

I think these numbers show the SEC is holding their own at the top of the league. The SEC is getting snubbed because over the last few years in the Big East-SEC Challenge and some other early season games we have not done well in the bottom half of the league.

I think you have nailed it. The ACC and maybe Big Ten & Big East are deeper with good teams. Think of SEC football compared to all the other conferences, same thing.


 

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