How many championships should we claim??

[Chechem]

ESPN keeps saying this is the 11th championship for Alabama.  I can see that the 1973 one should be questioned, but nobody is discussing the old Rose Bowl wins.

Anybody got a clean list of the 16?  I'd like to see which ones ESPN questions and why.

 

[Chechem]

ESPN keeps saying this is the 11th championship for Alabama.  I can see that the 1973 one should be questioned, but nobody is discussing the old Rose Bowl wins.

Anybody got a clean list of the 16?  I'd like to see which ones ESPN questions and why.

 

Found it.  Guess I'll move these to another thread.

[Chechem]

So, if you dismiss the early championships and the 1973 one, we've got only 10.

 

[bamaphil]

We should continue to claim 16 until next year.  Then claim 17 after we repeat.

[XBAMA]

way more than the barn 

[Chechem]

DETAILS:

1925.  Bama beat Washington 20-19 in the 1926 Rose Bowl, and was "awarded the national championship".  No polls?  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1.  See 1941 listing.

1926.  Bama tied Stanford 7-7 in the 1927 Rose Bowl. Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1930.  Bama beat Washington State 24-0 in the 1931 Rose Bowl.  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1934.  Bama beat Stanford 29-13 in the 1935 Rose Bowl.  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1941.  Bama beat Texas A&M 29-21 in the 1942 Cotton Bowl.  No mention of a national championship in anything except the Houlgate Poll.  Houlgate used his system, based on strength of opponents, to select national champions on a current basis from 1929 to 1958.  According to wiki, Houlgate also selected Alabama in 1925 and 1934.

1973.  Bama lost to Notre Dame 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl, but were voted #1 by the Coaches Poll prior to the bowls.

Anybody find a list of "selectors" for the 1920s and 1930s championships??

 

[N.AL-Tider]

DETAILS:

1925.  Bama beat Washington 20-19 in the 1926 Rose Bowl, and was "awarded the national championship".  No polls?  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1.  See 1941 listing.

1926.  Bama tied Stanford 7-7 in the 1927 Rose Bowl. Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1930.  Bama beat Washington State 24-0 in the 1931 Rose Bowl.  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1934.  Bama beat Stanford 29-13 in the 1935 Rose Bowl.  Wiki says just "various" under "Selectors" who voted Alabama #1. 

1941.  Bama beat Texas A&M 29-21 in the 1942 Cotton Bowl.  No mention of a national championship in anything except the Houlgate Poll.  Houlgate used his system, based on strength of opponents, to select national champions on a current basis from 1929 to 1958.  According to wiki, Houlgate also selected Alabama in 1925 and 1934.

1973.  Bama lost to Notre Dame 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl, but were voted #1 by the Coaches Poll prior to the bowls.

Anybody find a list of "selectors" for the 1920s and 1930s championships??

 

I think the "selectors" were just a variety of magazines back in that time.  I personally have no problem with NOT counting the 41 championship.  Bama didn't win their conference that year, Mississippi State did and Bama finished in 3rd place.  Also, Minnesota had the best overall record as far as I could tell but didn't play in a bowl game. I think at this point I would be fine with just counting 15.  I do feel that Bama got beat out of the '66 championship but I wouldn't claim it even so...

[Chechem]

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I think the "selectors" were just a variety of magazines back in that time.  I personally have no problem with NOT counting the 41 championship.  Bama didn't win their conference that year, Mississippi State did and Bama finished in 3rd place.  Also, Minnesota had the best overall record as far as I could tell but didn't play in a bowl game. I think at this point I would be fine with just counting 15.  I do feel that Bama got beat out of the '66 championship but I wouldn't claim it even so...

Good point about 1966.  Alabama was the only undefeated, untied team in America.
Notre Dame played for a 10-10 tie (ran out the clock while tied) with Michigan State, and the polls picked ND.  Neither ND or MSU went to a bowl game.  That sucked.  Anyone too young to remember should read about it.  Alabama had a dominant defense that year (6 shutouts), and Kenny Stabler was the QB.  We deserved that one!!

[Chechem]

Here is a link to all of the national championships named (by season and team):

Click here for link

[pmull]

Here is a couple of more links that discuss the championships we claim.

Click here for link

Click here for link

[Marshal Dillon]

The past way of ranking teams was based on different formulas or systems which were popular at the time. Do we accept that Princeton has 14 National Champions using he same system that selected the 1925 & 1926 Tide teams as NC? It also has Yale with 17 NC's, Michigan with 7, a ranking used from 1869 to 1935? No doubt the 1925, 1930, & 1934 teams were great, but really, do we then accept the legitimacy of the others? I think the modern era of the polls from 1936 to present is the way to go. The AP, UPI (Coaches) into the current playoff system is best. This would equal 11 NC's.

[Marshal Dillon]

The AP Poll Championships Lists the most Championships like this:

Alabama 10
Notre Dame 8
Oklahoma 7
Miami 5
Ohio State 5
USC 5
Nebraska 4
Minnesota 4


 

[XBAMA]

We should continue to claim 16 until next year.  Then claim 17 after we repeat.

ED ZACKERY ! if for no other reason , just to pizz off all the haters   

[ricky023]

I am claiming 16 until the VARIOUS people can prove me wrong. RTR!

[Catch Prothro]

ESPN keeps saying this is the 11th championship for Alabama.  I can see that the 1973 one should be questioned, but nobody is discussing the old Rose Bowl wins.

Anybody got a clean list of the 16?  I'd like to see which ones ESPN questions and why.

 

ESPN says 11th championship "since the poll era."  And while there is a question about '73, Bama should have been voted in 1966.  So with ESPN's qualifier, 11 is accurate. 

But Bama should claim 16 without ESPN's qualifier.  Four of those five wins were "Remember the Rose Bowl..." wins. 

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