NCAA tournament Team Selection

[Marshal Dillon]

As usual at this time, BB "analysts", coaches, sports talkers are urging for certain teams to be selected for the Tourney. This time the BS is getting really deep. I will give some examples:

"I think that at the end of the day, we're a team that not only can be in the NCAA Tournament, but win games in the NCAA Tournament," Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall said after his Shockers were eliminated from the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament last weekend.

Wichita State was one of several regular-season champions from mid-major conferences that didn't win league tournaments to lock up automatic NCAA bids. Monmouth (27-7) and St. Mary's (27-5) are in similar situations.

"We have one of the top-five records in the country. The only thing we didn't do was beat Gonzaga three times. We beat them twice," St. Mary's coach Randy Bennett said after losing the West Coast Conference final to Gonzaga.

So, let's do what I always enjoy doing, check the facts. Here is the record and strength-of-schedule of some of these "deserving" teams.

Wichita St.  23-8  SOS  120
St. Mary's   26-5  SOS  167
Monmouth  27-7  SOS  206                
George Washington 23-10  SOS 121
UAB  25-6  SOS 298
Michigan St. 27-5  SOS 85 (I don't get this one & added it because it adds to the confusion by their SOS
St. Bonaventure  22-8  SOS 82


So, if St. Mary's, Wichita St. or Monmouth make the Tourney, we should immediately schedule the likes of Cornell, Northern Arizona, Canisius, UCF, Rider, Drake, Evansville, & Fairfield.


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[2Stater]

As usual at this time, BB "analysts", coaches, sports talkers are urging for certain teams to be selected for the Tourney. This time the BS is getting really deep. I will give some examples:

"I think that at the end of the day, we're a team that not only can be in the NCAA Tournament, but win games in the NCAA Tournament," Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall said after his Shockers were eliminated from the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament last weekend.

Wichita State was one of several regular-season champions from mid-major conferences that didn't win league tournaments to lock up automatic NCAA bids. Monmouth (27-7) and St. Mary's (27-5) are in similar situations.

"We have one of the top-five records in the country. The only thing we didn't do was beat Gonzaga three times. We beat them twice," St. Mary's coach Randy Bennett said after losing the West Coast Conference final to Gonzaga.

So, let's do what I always enjoy doing, check the facts. Here is the record and strength-of-schedule of some of these "deserving" teams.

Wichita St.  23-8  SOS  120
St. Mary's   26-5  SOS  167
Monmouth  27-7  SOS  206                
George Washington 23-10  SOS 121
UAB  25-6  SOS 298
Michigan St. 27-5  SOS 85 (I don't get this one & added it because it adds to the confusion by their SOS
St. Bonaventure  22-8  SOS 82


So, if St. Mary's, Wichita St. or Monmouth make the Tourney, we should immediately schedule the likes of Cornell, Northern Arizona, Canisius, UCF, Rider, Drake, Evansville, & Fairfield.


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It's always been that way. I don't even like the idea of automatic bids for the lesser conferences. They usually get eliminated quickly, with some exceptions, and it keeps more deserving teams out.

As far as Michigan State goes, I think either they or Kansas will win it all.

[cbbama99]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

[2Stater]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

[Marshal Dillon]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"    

I've been wondering about that, too. Total repudiation of the Committee's credibility if they make it.

[Marshal Dillon]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

Try this sample.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8</a>

[2Stater]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

Try this sample.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8</a>

Oh jeez! 

[Marshal Dillon]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

Try this sample.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8</a>

Oh jeez! 

Does that mean they should not get a Tourney bid based on their SOS of 206?


 

[BillBrosky]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

Try this sample.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8</a>

Oh jeez! 

Does that mean they should not get a Tourney bid based on their SOS of 206?


 

Well, it is an attempt at good choreographing.

[pmull]

I think the RPI & BPI are more important than SOS. They both take SOS into account. Strictly judging teams by SOS is unfair to non power conference teams.


Team               RPI     BPI    SOS

Wichita State     51      24      119
St Mary's           41      31      164
Monmouth          55      86      209
G. Washington     65     60      121
UAB                  79      113     296
St Bony             30      74      87
So Carolina        56       38     38
Alabama            71       84     28
Florida               52      34      11

I think:

In:
Wichita State
St Mary's
St Bony
So Carolina (in over Florida because of much better conf and overall record)

Out:
Monmouth
G. Washington
UAB
Alabama
Florida
  

[N.AL-Tider]

I think the RPI & BPI are more important than SOS. They both take SOS into account. Strictly judging teams by SOS is unfair to non power conference teams.


Team               RPI     BPI    SOS

Wichita State     51      24      119
St Mary's           41      31      164
Monmouth          55      86      209
G. Washington     65     60      121
UAB                  79      113     296
St Bony             30      74      87
So Carolina        56       38     38
Alabama            71       84     28
Florida               52      34      11

I think:

In:
Wichita State
St Mary's
St Bony
So Carolina (in over Florida because of much better conf and overall record)

Out:
Monmouth
G. Washington
UAB
Alabama
Florida
  

Is this where we all should start calling you a Barner?

    

[ricky023]

2nd strongest SOS and we are out. Well look at the itty bitty colleges that got in because they won a conference that there is no way they could beat FLA or us. RTR!

[cbbama99]

I bet dollars to doughnuts that Monmouth gets in. That whole season-long story about their idiotic bench will be enough for the committee to say, "Hey, that's what we need! More excitement like that!"   

I missed the story on that, CB. What happened?

Try this sample.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwQCa-uVL8</a>

Oh jeez! 

Ed Zachary.   

[Catch Prothro]

The Power 5?

ACC   7 teams
Big12  7 teams
Big10  7 teams
Pac12  7 teams

SEC  3 teams

Other conferences:

Big East  5 teams
American  4 teams
Atlantic10  3 teams
Missouri Valley  2 teams


Same as it always is

[2Stater]

Ok CB, Monmouth didn't make it in. Do I get a dollar or a donut? 

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