***POLITICAL DAILY THREAD--RED STATE EDITION***

[SUPERCOACH]

I support a path to citizenship for the people who are here now.  We need to secure the borders too though.  In a post 9/11 world it should be practically impossible to come into the country illegally, but it is still fairly easy.

As for the peaceful hispanics he came here for a better life, who can blame them for that?  After decades of the Federal government saying that it is OK to come on in, why would they abide by an immigration law that is completely ignored by the very government that passed that law.

I do not have a problem with anyone of any race coming here if they will obey all laws. An immigrant should not come to our country looking for a handout. Right now they come here, have a kid and go on welfare. They need to have a job, pay taxes and maintain proper health and auto insurance. Currently illegal hispanics are a burden to our medical system and one reason insurance cost is so high. Alabama pasted a law that you must have minimum auto insurance. My family has had two accidents caused by illegal immigrants that did not have insurance. Nothing was done to them and I had to pay $500 deductable to get cars fixed.

We need to strictly inforce the laws that are on the books now. If an illegal immigrant breaks the law send them home. If they obey the laws they are welcome to stay. It would also help if they learn our language.

I just don't know how accurate that is.  All of the ones that I know came here for jobs and they do work.  I don't know if they are here legally or not, but the odds are that at least some of them are probably illegal I would think.

Let me rephrase my comment. Right now some come here, have a kid and go on welfare. There are many that come here and lead productive lives and are an asset to their community and the companies they work for.

In Decatur you can not go to Walmart without getting behind a hispanic with several kids paying for items with food stamps and milk/egg government coupons. Doctors have moved from Decatur General Hospital to the private hostipal that is not required to take patients that can not pay the medical bill. By law a hospital has to take a life/death patient such as heart attack. Private facilities do not have to treat non-life threatening illness or deliver babies. Parkway Medical Center has a map to give to the uninsured showing how to get to Decatur General.

I stand by my comment that we need to strictly inforce the laws we have on the books now. I don't blame them for wanting to come here but there is a legal way to do it.

1.  I think we need to do away with the automatic citizenship law for people that are born here.  I think citizenship at birth should only be available to people who have at least one parent that is a citizen or here by some legal means.

2.  I think you should not be able to get food stamps or any other government assistance unless you are here legally.

3.  However, if you are here illegally, I would support the government helping you out with an all expenses paid trip back to your country of origin if you are not able to provide for yourself.

[pmull]

1.  I think we need to do away with the automatic citizenship law for people that are born here.  I think citizenship at birth should only be available to people who have at least one parent that is a citizen or here by some legal means.

2.  I think you should not be able to get food stamps or any other government assistance unless you are here legally.

3.  However, if you are here illegally, I would support the government helping you out with an all expenses paid trip back to your country of origin if you are not able to provide for yourself.

I also think we should hold employers accountable if they hire illegal immigrants.

[SUPERCOACH]

1.  I think we need to do away with the automatic citizenship law for people that are born here.  I think citizenship at birth should only be available to people who have at least one parent that is a citizen or here by some legal means.

2.  I think you should not be able to get food stamps or any other government assistance unless you are here legally.

3.  However, if you are here illegally, I would support the government helping you out with an all expenses paid trip back to your country of origin if you are not able to provide for yourself.

I also think we should hold employers accountable if they hire illegal immigrants.

Yes.  Especially the ones that put up billboards down in Mexico listing their phone number and telling them to call for a job if they make it into the US.

[BAMAWV]

OK. Here is what the Poor Ol' BAMAWV investigation has figured out so far in my Benghazi murders/ David Patreus sex scandal.

First, the FBI, hence the rascals at you-know-where Pennsylvania Ave., have known that Gen. Patreus has been having an extramarital affair since way back (maybe 5 mos.). This is not only a painful embarrassment to the General and his family, but a job termination offense. So what influence did this have on the General's congressional testimony when he shocked the intelligence community by testifying along the White House talking points that the terrorist (Al Queda) murders of our embassy personnel was due to a riot caused by the "Video".  Who, if anyone at the White House, asked him to testify (quid pro quo) in that direction, contrary to the intelligence gathered and live feeds of the attack/murders. This is as far as I have been able to go.

What I need now, is for someone from this forum (maybe CB since he lives closest) to wear a wire and infiltrate the Oval Office (just kidding HL) so I can put a bow around my investigation. Volunteers can PM me. This could be big for CRS, the "Football Forum that brought down the White House". SIAP and any spelling/grammatical errors are because I have the house lights dimmed and shades drawn.  

[pmull]

I am sick of hearing people say that the Petraeus affair/scandal is a moral issue but he did not break any laws. A Four Star General and CIA Director is held to higher standards than the general public. To achieve these high posts you are required to have unquestioned integrity and justment. Once you start making bad decisions the cover up begins. One lie leads to another. IMO this is a national security issue and not just a firing offense.

It also goes to show this administration will cover up anything they can as long as they can. The FBI has know about this scandal for 5 months.

[BAMAWV]

I am sick of hearing people say that the Petraeus affair/scandal is a moral issue but he did not break any laws. A Four Star General and CIA Director is held to higher standards than the general public. To achieve these high posts you are required to have unquestioned integrity and justment. Once you start making bad decisions the cover up begins. One lie leads to another. IMO this is a national security issue and not just a firing offense.

It also goes to show this administration will cover up anything they can as long as they can. The FBI has know about this scandal for 5 months.

Bingo! It is a darn shame that one of the greatest military minds on Earth got himself into this mess. But the White House did not see a tragic situation unfolding around Patreus, but an opportunity to extort the General into becoming their puppet. As pmull alluded, this becomes a national security crisis if a foreign agent leverages the Patreus transgressions into treason.

In the words of a great and storied marine, "For shame, for shame. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!"

[pmull]

Obama has had a bad week since the election. Lets review:

1. The Benghazi mess. Obama's administration let 4 noble Americans die in Benghazi for no reason other than political gain. The facts of the cover up are emerging and the GOP is wanting a "Watergate type" panel to review exactly what all went wrong and why.
2.The head of the CIA has resigned over a sex scandal that the administration has know about since May. It is becoming apparent this is much more than an affair but a National Security Risk.
3. The stock market has dropped 750 points. US economy being the issue.
4. Israel is on the brink of war. The Mid East in general is in turmol.
5. Seven states have the 30,000 signatures on petitions to secede from the United States. A petition with 30,000 signatures warrants a response from the White House. Texas has over 100,000 signatures.

What a mess this country is in. I hope the end result is not as bad as it looks from where I am sitting.

[BAMAWV]

Obama has had a bad week since the election. Lets review:

1. The Benghazi mess. Obama's administration let 4 noble Americans die in Benghazi for no reason other than political gain. The facts of the cover up are emerging and the GOP is wanting a "Watergate type" panel to review exactly what all went wrong and why.
2.The head of the CIA has resigned over a sex scandal that the administration has know about since May. It is becoming apparent this is much more than an affair but a National Security Risk.
3. The stock market has dropped 750 points. US economy being the issue.
4. Israel is on the brink of war. The Mid East in general is in turmol.
5. Seven states have the 30,000 signatures on petitions to secede from the United States. A petition with 30,000 signatures warrants a response from the White House. Texas has over 100,000 signatures.

What a mess this country is in. I hope the end result is not as bad as it looks from where I am sitting.

Of all the times for our forum buddy's to start their period.

[ricky023]

I have always seen us as "One Nation Under God" but I don't know now, could we be one nation under Islam, cause Christians sure don't stand up and be accounted for. RTR!

[Bamaphile]

Here is a prime example of a huge problem in this country today.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU</a>

[pmull]

Here is a prime example of a huge problem in this country today.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU</a>

Free money? Too many many people in this country are looking for handouts rather than getting a job and making an honest living. The odds that this guy voted for Romney is ZERO.

[BAMAWV]

The face of evil:

Click here for link

Save for after the game--long read but worth the look.

[pmull]

The face of evil:

Click here for link

Save for after the game--long read but worth the look.

I don't think the link is working. At least it does not for me. It takes me to a google search page. 

[BAMAWV]

Condoleezza Brown Rice? Video not suitable for work or for the White House for that matter.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHG8s4og08s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHG8s4og08s</a>

Looking for clip of Joe Biden calling BHO a HOMEBOY (it should be up soon).

Watch this old Joe Biden pearl in the meantime:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ</a>

[BAMAWV]

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