** ANOTHER SCHOOL SHOOTING - South Florida - Broward Co

[bama57]

Ricky I love watching Andy Griffin and what was great times but we owe it to our grandchildren to address this problem  the sad thing is that it's so difficult to find a solution .... evil is rampant

[Catch Prothro]

You aren't going to legislate the problem away....

It's easy to "make them harder to get" for people who want to follow rules.  It's not easy to stop people who don't follow rules or care about consequences...

The best possible way to slow it down or alleviate it likely would be to take it out of the media.  It's almost become "mainstream" now, so the nuts are more likely to go in that direction.

However, censoring the news isn't something we should be in the business of doing in this country either.

However, there are many laws already on the books that can and should help protect the public from this type situation.  More laws won't do anything other than make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to own weapons. 

1.  Only way to legislate it away completely is to outlaw guns, and I'm not in favor of that.  However, I do think additional legislation is warranted, to limit the potential outcome of these events, and perhaps take it out of the media as well.  An Oregon kid was arrested this week, planning to shoot up his school and make himself notorious.  As read by his grandmother in his journal, he wanted the most carnage to gain the most attention.  Without a high-magazine count weapon, perhaps he would not have developed this goal.

2.  I don't care if it is slightly harder to get a weapon if that prevents even one senseless killing.  People who argue otherwise sound selfish, or like crybabies.  This particular killer did follow the rules.  At 18, I feel he was too young to be able to purchase a gun on his own.  Raise the age to 21, under the same rationale used for alcohol sales, and that could keep guns out of the hands of those who still have ties to school.

3.  Yes, there are rules in place, but the government has been eliminating them, and the refusal to address the problem is simply the product of being in the gun lobby's pocket.  Saying we can do nothing is flat-out wrong.  The USA has by far the most gun related deaths in the world, outside of a few third world countries. Other civilized countries have responsibly addressed the issue, the USA has not.

(a) Why the refusal to put those on the terrorist watch list into the no-gun registry?  Anyone outside the gun lobby and terrorist groups oppose that? 

(b) The prior administration enacted a rule to identify those with mental illness who probably should not purchase guns -- those whose mental illness is so severe that they cannot be expected to hold down a job or take care of themselves (so they are receiving a monthly check from the government for disability).  Trump revoked this rule about a year ago.

[ricky023]

Ricky I love watching Andy Griffin and what was great times but we owe it to our grandchildren to address this problem  the sad thing is that it's so difficult to find a solution .... evil is rampant

I agree with you 57. We must address this problem. If those kids are made to work at home and get off computers and phones and made to study and be tired at dark they will have different ideas I believe. I may be wrong but doing away with guns is not the answer. Maybe parents need whippings so they can learn to watch and keep up with what kids do! RTR!

[SUPERCOACH]

There are lots of good ideas to "help", but I only see 1 solution to stop this:  immediate confrontation by armed responders.

We can discuss and debate who the armed responders should be (police officers, retired military, highly trained volunteers and teachers, etc.).

But if these nutjobs knew that there would be an immediate confrontation by people who have the ability to return fire if they don't surrender, it will all but completely stop.  The body count will be minimized, the notoriety will be diminished significantly, and the ability to one up the last guy will be non-existent.  That removes the motivation to do this in the first place, so most of the time they won't even try it if they know their efforts will be futile.  And if they do attempt it anyway, lives will be saved because they will be stopped much, much quicker than they are right now.

I know that is not a political solution and furthers no one's political agenda, but it is a real solution that will actually stop this problem in my opinion.

[ricky023]

There are lots of good ideas to "help", but I only see 1 solution to stop this:  immediate confrontation by armed responders.

We can discuss and debate who the armed responders should be (police officers, retired military, highly trained volunteers and teachers, etc.).

But if these nutjobs knew that there would be an immediate confrontation by people who have the ability to return fire if they don't surrender, it will all but completely stop.  The body count will be minimized, the notoriety will be diminished significantly, and the ability to one up the last guy will be non-existent.  That removes the motivation to do this in the first place, so most of the time they won't even try it if they know their efforts will be futile.  And if they do attempt it anyway, lives will be saved because they will be stopped much, much quicker than they are right now.

I know that is not a political solution and furthers no one's political agenda, but it is a real solution that will actually stop this problem in my opinion.

  e-cred for this one SC. I think you have an idea that is Great but who to get to accept it though? RTR!

[2Stater]

There are lots of good ideas to "help", but I only see 1 solution to stop this:  immediate confrontation by armed responders.

We can discuss and debate who the armed responders should be (police officers, retired military, highly trained volunteers and teachers, etc.).

But if these nutjobs knew that there would be an immediate confrontation by people who have the ability to return fire if they don't surrender, it will all but completely stop.  The body count will be minimized, the notoriety will be diminished significantly, and the ability to one up the last guy will be non-existent.  That removes the motivation to do this in the first place, so most of the time they won't even try it if they know their efforts will be futile.  And if they do attempt it anyway, lives will be saved because they will be stopped much, much quicker than they are right now.

I know that is not a political solution and furthers no one's political agenda, but it is a real solution that will actually stop this problem in my opinion.

I too, give you an e-cred, SC. I've been preaching this since Columbine.

[Chechem]

Herein lies the solution:

[Catch Prothro]

Herein lies the solution:

Big Billy Bass?   

[2Stater]

Herein lies the solution:

Big Billy Bass?   

  I think Chech means that kids nowadays don't do enough fishing to stay out of trouble.

[Chechem]

Herein lies the solution:

Big Billy Bass?   

  I think Chech means that kids nowadays don't do enough fishing to stay out of trouble.

BINGO!   

[ricky023]

Yeeeeee Hawwwwwwwwwwww. RTR!

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