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« on: October 29, 2011, 07:00:54 AM »

from the ESPN site:

....."Under the current model, those scholarships are renewed annually and can be revoked for any reason. If adopted, schools could guarantee scholarships for the player's entire career and would be unable to revoke it based solely on athletic performance. Scholarships could still be pulled for reasons such as poor grades, academic misconduct or other forms of improper behavior."


So...A coach, who is the ultimate authority, now cannot send a player packing because he dies not measure up "performance.. wise"..D!@#$%!  A recruit is recruited to play..and if he can't measure up, you still gotta keep him?


If a student who has a scholastic scholarship makes poor grade, does he/she not lose the scholarship?

The ncaa pukes can't get anything right!
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 08:43:35 AM »

The NCAA is like the Federal Government. Their decisions more times than not adversely affect those it means to help. A coach must retain the right to rescind a scholly if the player does not perform to the standards the coach has set. To me, this decision smells of more political correctness.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 08:47:43 AM »

The NCAA is like the Federal Government. Their decisions more times than not adversely affect those it means to help. A coach must retain the right to rescind a scholly if the player does not perform to the standards the coach has set. To me, this decision smells of more political correctness.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 08:50:35 AM »

The college players are getting a union. Once they sign their scholarship they can become lazy and have a bad attitude and there is nothing the coach can do about it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 08:51:40 AM »

The college players are getting a union. Once they sign their scholarship they can become lazy and have a bad attitude and there is nothing the coach can do about it.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 09:13:54 AM »

All this provision does is gives schools the option to offer multi-year scholarships.  They are not required.  Also, creative schools schould be able to structure their schollys so that, if athletic performance does not measure up, the 4-year scholly does not count against athletic scholarship limits.  I am in favor of this because it seems harsh to cut a kid just because that kid cannot perform as expected.  Also, schools are in a much better financial and bargaining position than a recruit (who has the lawyers?), and generate a good bit of revenue through their football programs, so it does not seem like a huge burden for a university to allow a very, very small percentage of its student population (those 5 or so students who are uncompetitive) to attend classes that already exist anyway, it is just the cost of doing business in the football world.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 09:26:31 AM »

It may stipulate it's the schools choice to offer the multi year or not but you can bet these recruits will be demanding it. The recruiting wars just got bigger.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 10:25:31 AM »

You think it "harsh" to expel a recruit who does not perform as expected? 

What color is the sky in your world? 

Would you expect your company to keep you if you do not "perform as expected"? I think not..the real world does not work that way.

Next thing you know, we will quit keeping score..it might infringe on someone's sensibilities..outlaw passing plays that go for more than 10 yards..just to keep things "fair"...goodlordallmighty!

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 10:39:47 AM »

You think it "harsh" to expel a recruit who does not perform as expected? 

What color is the sky in your world? 

Would you expect your company to keep you if you do not "perform as expected"? I think not..the real world does not work that way.

Next thing you know, we will quit keeping score..it might infringe on someone's sensibilities..outlaw passing plays that go for more than 10 yards..just to keep things "fair"...goodlordallmighty!



67, I want you on my side for the next political debate.  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 11:07:07 AM »

This one is on me al67.  What the &$%@!!! Angry

This smells like the same idiots that want to ruin collegiate athletics by paying kids "a little something". Just a hop skip and a jump from AAA Baseball. That "little something" will turn into something substantial before the ink is dry on the first paychecks. Everyone thinks they are the enlightened ones that are going to save the world from ALL inequities. But they are the whiney FAGGOTS that will not only ruin college sports, but eventually ruin any chance these kids have of actually getting an education. One could further argue that by destroying college ball, these simpletons will also ruin pro ball by sending athletes unprepared. #@!%!!!

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 11:34:57 AM »

We are just now learning what a firestorm this is gonna be..mark my words, this is going to end up being the dumbest thing ncca pukes have done since they outlawed the athletic dorms.

Too much money is involved to expect ncaa pukes to do anything sane (Scam?)
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 12:04:30 PM »

We are just now learning what a firestorm this is gonna be..mark my words, this is going to end up being the dumbest thing ncca pukes have done since they outlawed the athletic dorms.

Too much money is involved to expect ncaa pukes to do anything sane (Scam?)
Our schools are being run by liberals with liberal agendas, both public and private. These same liberals run the NCAA. I do not trust them. We are to blame for ALL the injustices in the world, but the liberals will save us. They will ruin college football, so they feel better about themselves. They TRIED to correct a perceived injustice, even if it ruins it all for everyone. At least they FEEL better, knowing they tried.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 12:09:23 PM »

so ? how about those Cardinals      Grin
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 12:17:21 PM »

Good on the Cards!  I was pulling for the Rangers 'cause I was always a fan of Nolan Ryan.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 12:36:15 PM »

You think it "harsh" to expel a recruit who does not perform as expected?  

What color is the sky in your world?  

Would you expect your company to keep you if you do not "perform as expected"? I think not..the real world does not work that way.

Next thing you know, we will quit keeping score..it might infringe on someone's sensibilities..outlaw passing plays that go for more than 10 yards..just to keep things "fair"...goodlordallmighty!


Dude, I'm just saying that it costs very little to the university for a student or two to continue their education, relative to the benefit the university receives for the opportunity to recruit these kids and profit from their play.

What if the university fires a coach and the kid doesn't fit the new scheme?  Should the kid lose the scholly?  How about a RB who is good and does his best, but the school just recruited the next Barry Sanders and the kid is no longer needed.

It is easier for the school to replace the kid than it is for the kid to replace the university.  There are rules against the kid moving schools, etc., but there are no rules against a school replacing a kid.    So when a kid commits to a school, that usually is a 4-year commitment by the kid, or going through the hassle of changing schools or going to a lower tier school.  

So this is not a free market economy, there are rules.  And your analysis based strictly on free market economy principles fails to consider a relative cost benefit analysis.

I think when you institute restraints on trade you have to move to a cost benefits analysis.
 
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