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« on: December 05, 2011, 05:43:12 PM »

Why are conferences being rewarded now for NOT having a championship game, big12 teams get another bye so they can play on the day of the conference championships. This gives them a few advantages other than the extra bye game, let's use Andrew Luck as an example. First he doesn't get the extra week to recover from rough games, second he doesn't play on the "last day" because his team lost one game to a BCS team so he doesn't get to go head to head on the last day with RG3 who's team in most years would also not compete in the conference championship but he gets the two byes plus the advantage of playing on "championship weekend" and having HUGE numbers. Luck may have had HUGE numbers the last game of the season but what have you done for me lately. Now let's take this to something more dear to our hearts, Bama stomped a BCS top 25 team the last game of the season just as Oklahoma State did, we can argue about the quality of the opponent but the fact is Oklahoma didn't play well against anyone but Texas, a team that was stomped by Baylor by the way. Oklahoma State is getting much more press because again, what have you done for me lately, plus they get the bye.

I propose everyone should get an extra bye and the conference championship games moved back a week.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 05:46:39 PM »

I have been mulling this over today, something just didn't seem fair about these conferences not playing in a conference championship. I could see where they would have wanted to be more competitive when only one or two conferences had championships but now they are being rewarded for not having one when everyone else has one.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 05:55:52 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 06:08:14 PM »

Good post 55.  I put it on the front page.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 06:14:14 PM »

Good post 55.  I put it on the front page.

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 06:15:35 PM »

Angry

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 06:21:43 PM »

Good post 55.  I put it on the front page.

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I looked it up.  You're right:

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 07:18:36 PM »

Good post 55.  I put it on the front page.

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Gracias means thank you in Spanish. (interjection)

An example of gracias is what you say after someone helps you in a Spanish-speaking country.
Wow, never knew it worked in Spain too.  I thought it only worked in Cuba being the Cuban language and all.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 10:37:11 PM »

At the extra off date- allowing their final games on the same stage as champions. Good Post
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 11:01:08 PM »

Why are conferences being rewarded now for NOT having a championship game, big12 teams get another bye so they can play on the day of the conference championships. This gives them a few advantages other than the extra bye game, let's use Andrew Luck as an example. First he doesn't get the extra week to recover from rough games, second he doesn't play on the "last day" because his team lost one game to a BCS team so he doesn't get to go head to head on the last day with RG3 who's team in most years would also not compete in the conference championship but he gets the two byes plus the advantage of playing on "championship weekend" and having HUGE numbers. Luck may have had HUGE numbers the last game of the season but what have you done for me lately. Now let's take this to something more dear to our hearts, Bama stomped a BCS top 25 team the last game of the season just as Oklahoma State did, we can argue about the quality of the opponent but the fact is Oklahoma didn't play well against anyone but Texas, a team that was stomped by Baylor by the way. Oklahoma State is getting much more press because again, what have you done for me lately, plus they get the bye.

I propose everyone should get an extra bye and the conference championship games moved back a week.
Yep, good point.  Something was wrong about the Big12 dominating the final weekend, in terms of coverage and number of games.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 11:48:08 PM »

Why are conferences being rewarded now for NOT having a championship game, big12 teams get another bye so they can play on the day of the conference championships. This gives them a few advantages other than the extra bye game, let's use Andrew Luck as an example. First he doesn't get the extra week to recover from rough games, second he doesn't play on the "last day" because his team lost one game to a BCS team so he doesn't get to go head to head on the last day with RG3 who's team in most years would also not compete in the conference championship but he gets the two byes plus the advantage of playing on "championship weekend" and having HUGE numbers. Luck may have had HUGE numbers the last game of the season but what have you done for me lately. Now let's take this to something more dear to our hearts, Bama stomped a BCS top 25 team the last game of the season just as Oklahoma State did, we can argue about the quality of the opponent but the fact is Oklahoma didn't play well against anyone but Texas, a team that was stomped by Baylor by the way. Oklahoma State is getting much more press because again, what have you done for me lately, plus they get the bye.

I propose everyone should get an extra bye and the conference championship games moved back a week.
Yep, good point.  Something was wrong about the Big12 dominating the final weekend, in terms of coverage and number of games.

True, but thankfully in this case it didn't help.

Am I wrong to think they are planning to go back to at least 12 schools and have a championship final week like the rest?

I thought they were looking at adding more schools to have the required 12 for championship game.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 12:07:18 AM »

Why are conferences being rewarded now for NOT having a championship game, big12 teams get another bye so they can play on the day of the conference championships. This gives them a few advantages other than the extra bye game, let's use Andrew Luck as an example. First he doesn't get the extra week to recover from rough games, second he doesn't play on the "last day" because his team lost one game to a BCS team so he doesn't get to go head to head on the last day with RG3 who's team in most years would also not compete in the conference championship but he gets the two byes plus the advantage of playing on "championship weekend" and having HUGE numbers. Luck may have had HUGE numbers the last game of the season but what have you done for me lately. Now let's take this to something more dear to our hearts, Bama stomped a BCS top 25 team the last game of the season just as Oklahoma State did, we can argue about the quality of the opponent but the fact is Oklahoma didn't play well against anyone but Texas, a team that was stomped by Baylor by the way. Oklahoma State is getting much more press because again, what have you done for me lately, plus they get the bye.

I propose everyone should get an extra bye and the conference championship games moved back a week.
Yep, good point.  Something was wrong about the Big12 dominating the final weekend, in terms of coverage and number of games.

True, but thankfully in this case it didn't help.

Am I wrong to think they are planning to go back to at least 12 schools and have a championship final week like the rest?

I thought they were looking at adding more schools to have the required 12 for championship game.

sure hope so, but losing two this year isn't helping
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 04:21:34 AM »

Good post 55.  I put it on the front page.

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I looked it up.  You're right:

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Gracias means thank you in Spanish. (interjection)

An example of gracias is what you say after someone helps you in a Spanish-speaking country.
Wow, never knew it worked in Spain too.  I thought it only worked in Cuba being the Cuban language and all.

I have a friend who went to Guatemala.  He said he overheard someone say it there. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 07:39:10 AM »

Why are conferences being rewarded now for NOT having a championship game, big12 teams get another bye so they can play on the day of the conference championships. This gives them a few advantages other than the extra bye game, let's use Andrew Luck as an example. First he doesn't get the extra week to recover from rough games, second he doesn't play on the "last day" because his team lost one game to a BCS team so he doesn't get to go head to head on the last day with RG3 who's team in most years would also not compete in the conference championship but he gets the two byes plus the advantage of playing on "championship weekend" and having HUGE numbers. Luck may have had HUGE numbers the last game of the season but what have you done for me lately. Now let's take this to something more dear to our hearts, Bama stomped a BCS top 25 team the last game of the season just as Oklahoma State did, we can argue about the quality of the opponent but the fact is Oklahoma didn't play well against anyone but Texas, a team that was stomped by Baylor by the way. Oklahoma State is getting much more press because again, what have you done for me lately, plus they get the bye.

I propose everyone should get an extra bye and the conference championship games moved back a week.
Yep, good point.  Something was wrong about the Big12 dominating the final weekend, in terms of coverage and number of games.

True, but thankfully in this case it didn't help.

Am I wrong to think they are planning to go back to at least 12 schools and have a championship final week like the rest?

I thought they were looking at adding more schools to have the required 12 for championship game.

IDK, I just think if you're going to call your conference "The Big 12" that maybe you should have, let's say, 12 teams? 
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 07:53:58 AM »

Is it legal to be speaking Cuban with the embargo and all?  Don't want to get SuperCoach in trouble here...
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